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Looking for Agnes
« on: Thursday 09 March 23 05:55 GMT (UK) »
Please can someone help with this family,

William Nicholas Roper Horler and Mary Noble.
William was born 1885 in Bristol Gloucestershire, parents Francis and Florence Horler.  Mary Noble was born 1881 in Edinburgh, parents Henry and Mary Noble.

I cannot find a marriage, but the main puzzling thing is their daughter Agnes born about 1906 in Jarrow Durham, the only birth reg I can find is for a Agnes Smith born 1905, Agnes appears on the 1911 census with her parents and brother Francis.  The couple including Alice had 6 children
 Agnes born 1906
Francis William born 1909
Sidney James born 1911
Lillian born 1913
James born 1916
Florence Ada born 1918
All apart from Agnes the other children were born in Bristol.

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 March 23 07:02 GMT (UK) »
Helena, Can you post the 1911 source details as I don’t seem to be able to find the family..

Also the children’s births are not coming up Roper/Noble on the GRO website.

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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 March 23 07:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi jc

Have tried 3 times to post census but will keep trying,

The children's reg (except Agnes)

Francis....Horler Francis William Noble gro reference 1909 d Bristol vol 06a p 7
Sidney....Horler Sidney James Noble gro ref 1911 s Bristol vol 06a p 24
Lilliam....Horler Lillian Noble gro ref 1913 s Bristol vol 06a p 25
James....Horler Noble gro ref 1916 s Bristol vol 06a p 1
Florence ada...Horler Florence Ada ref 1918 j Bristol vol 06a p 25
Austin,Bistol
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Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
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Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 March 23 07:32 GMT (UK) »
4th time of trying
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Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
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Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 March 23 08:15 GMT (UK) »
Although Agnes is listed as born about 1906 in 1921 using the freeindex she is born about 1904.  I wonder if Agnes is the child of a previous relationship or marriage for Mary which might be why she didn't/couldn't  marry William? :-\

Kay

Added - Do you know where Mary is in 1901 as I don't think she is with her parents?

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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 March 23 08:25 GMT (UK) »
Although Agnes is listed as born about 1906 in 1921 using the freeindex she is born about 1904.  I wonder if Agnes is the child of a previous relationship or marriage for Mary which might be why she didn't/couldn't  marry William? :-\

Kay

Also Mary in 1921 is born c1877 so may well have been married previously.

John

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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 March 23 08:41 GMT (UK) »
From GRO site

Agnes Smith June quarter 1904 South Shields Vol 10a Page 963 mmn Noble

Just to note there is also a baby Peter Noble Smith mmn Noble born 1906 and died 1907 in South Shields - brother of Agnes?
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Re: Looking for Agnes
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 March 23 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Just throwing this into the mix.

1901 census
Piece:   5131
Folio:   96
Page Number:   20

Mary S(Simpson) Noble aged 21. Her birthdate given on Scotlandspeople as 2nd June 1879 in Dalkeith (part of Edinburgh). Her mmn given as Croall. Her siblings in 1901 born in England have mmn Croll.

Cannot find her after 1901 census. Both parents died pre 1911.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 March 23 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your help.  Not sure about Mary being born in 1877, Kay, Birth reg Mary Noble gender f birth date 22 Nov 1881 birth place Edinburgh Midlothian Residence date 1881 place Scotland father Henry Noble Mary Kavnagh



Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
Census information Crown Copyright  from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk