Derbyshire or Staffordshire?

[lydiaann]

Here's a conundrum that I cannot seem to sort out.

John Houghton b. abt 1787, Forsbrook, Staffordshire. Married Lydia Tivey, b. 1788, Melbourne, Derbyshire. 

William, son of the above, b. 1810 - place of birth not found, although 2 trees have it as 'Melbourne, Derbyshire' but with no source other than Ancestry Family Trees, who also have no source info.

Hannah Lydia, b. abt 1813, again no place of birth found.  But here's where it gets interesting:
There are 2 records for a baptism for Hannah Lydia...
Bap 16 May, 1813, Wick, nr. Pershore, Worcs. Worcester CofE Births & Baptisms)
Bap 16 May, 1813, Stafford. (England Select Births and Christenings)
Both have her 2 names, both state that her parents were John Houghton and Lydia.
As Wick and Stafford are 62 miles apart, it would be impossible for them to have 2 ceremonies on the same day.  Because of John's connection to Stafford, I am inclined to believe that one.  And as all other 3 siblings (younger) were born in Melbourne, it seems unlikely that Wick would be anywhere on the family's radar.

Is this just one massive coincidence? Or is there anyone with Hannah Lydia in their tree who has a more definitive answer?

[BumbleB]

Both entries on FindMyPast are from FS transcripts.  However, Ancestry has an image of the Wick BT's - 16 May 1813 - Hannah Lydia, daughter of John and Lydia Houghton of Wick.  Occupation:  Labourer.

[emeltom]

John and Lydia Houghton baptised the following children in Wick
Mary 25 Dec 1799
David 21 February 2802
Unnamed male 5 January 1804
Hannah 21 February 1808
Hannah Lydia 16 May 1813

Possibly two couples named John and Lydia?

[emeltom]

Just realised that if Lydia Tivey was born 1788 she is unlikely to have been having children in 1799 so it must be two different families.

[lydiaann]

Thank you both for the information that you've discovered.  They are obviously 2 different families...I had not even thought about Lydia's dob, emeltom, and you are right.  She would definitely not have had children that early (nor would she have had David if he is to be born 800 years hence ).  What a strange coincidence, though, that the girl child of each couple should have the 2 exact same names in the same order (Hannah Lydia)!  So, Stafford it is.

As always, you've come up trumps - many thanks indeed!

lydiaann

[emeltom]

Sorry about the typo with David - that will teach me to read a post properly before hiiting the button to post it

[DCB]

Looking at the baptisms, there was a David Houghton, son of John and Lydia, baptised in Stafford on 20th February 1802.

The one in Wick was a day later, but son of William and Lydia, and married Hannah Trubey in 1827.

David

[emeltom]

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817c02be93790eca3ce9770/david-houghton-baptism-worcestershire-wick-1802-02-21?locale=en

These are the details I found for David son of John and Lydia in 1802

[DCB]

These are the truncated versions from FindMyPast. It seems as though there are some transcription errors. The only certainty is Hannah of 1813 in Wick.

First name: David
Last name: Houghton
Father's first name: John
Father's last name: Houghton
Mother's first name: Lydia
Mother's last name: Houghton
Baptism date: 20 Feb 1802
Residence: Stafford, England
County: Staffordshire

First name: David
Last name: Houghton
Father's first name: Wm.
Father's last name: Houghton
Mother's first name: Lydia
Baptism date: 21 Feb 1802
Place: Wick
County: Worcestershire

David