ALLCOCK, missing parents

[Red Ash]

Seeking parents of James Allcock  or Alcock born 1846? In Ashbourne area.

CENSUS 1851 has him aged 5 living with grand mother Mary in Mayfield.
-So who were is parents?
-Were the other grandchildren with Mary his siblings?

I think he married Hannah in 1865 ? Hannah Hibberd?

Any help gratefully received.

[CaroleW]

Birth was 1845 - see freebmd

If you use the freebmd info on GRO online - no mothers maiden name is shown so he was illegitimate

www.freebmd.org.uk

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

[Cas (stallc)]

Grandchildren of Mary in 1841 & 1851 census

Name:   Frederic Alcock
Christening Date:   11 Jan 1829
Christening Place:   Mayfield, Staffordshire, England
Mother:   Elizabeth Alcock

John Alcock
Baptism Date:   10 Nov 1833
Baptism Place:   Tissington, Derbyshire, England
Mother: Elizabeth Alcock

Children of Hannah

William Alcock
Baptism Date:   30 Jul 1835
Baptism Place:   Tissington,Derby,England
Mother:   Hannah Alcock
FHL Film Number:   428948, 498138

Eliza Alcock
Baptism Date:   2 May 1841
Baptism Place:   Tissington,Derby,England
Mother:   Hannah Alcock
FHL Film Number:   428948, 498138

Ralph Alcock
Baptism Date:   26 May 1844
Baptism Place:   Tissington, Derbyshire, England
Mother: Hannah (single woman)

Children of Lydia

Harriette Anne Alcock
Baptism Date:   14 Feb 1841
Baptism Place:   Tissington, Derbyshire, England
Mother : Lydia (Single woman)

Name:   James Alcock
Baptism Date:   20 Jul 1845
Baptism Place:   Tissington,Derby,England
Mother:   Lydia Alcock
FHL Film Number:   428948, 498138

1841 census - Tissington, Derbyshire

Mary Allcock 65
Hannah Allcock 27
Lydia Allcock 25
Frederic Allcock 12
John Allcock   7
William Allcock 5
Harriot Allcock 4 Mo
Eliza Allcock 3 Mo

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[Cas (stallc)]

James either invented a father or he was named Thomas

Name:   James Alcock
Marriage Age:   20
Birth Date:   1845
Marriage Date:   25 Dec 1865
Marriage Place:   Bakewell, Derbyshire, England
Father:   Thomas Alcock, shoemaker
Spouse:   Hannah Hibberd, age 21, Father Thomas Hibberd, Lab
Witness Ralph & Eliza Alcock

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Death
ALLCOCK, LYDIA    age 44 
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in OF ASHBOURNE  Volume 07B  Page 270

With Hannah & family in 1861, Mayfield

Hannah Alcock 47   Head
Eliza Alcock 20   Daughter
Ralph Alcock 17   Son
Harriett Alcock 17 Lodger
James Alcock 16   Lodger

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[Cas (stallc)]

Ralph married 1864, these are the likely witness to James marriage

Name:   Ralph Allcock
Marriage Date:   4 Oct 1864
Marriage Place:   Mayfield, Staffordshire, England
Father:   Ralph Allcock
Spouse:   Eliza Forester

Looks like Harriet never married
Eliza married 1861 to Henry Wibberley

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[Red Ash]

Thank you yo all who have found all this information.

I know understand how all these people are related to each other and which children were siblings.

Thank you again. Amazing step forward in the tree.

[Cas (stallc)]

Glad to help when can.  Incase you don't have it, here is the marriage for Mary. There was a Goodwin sister or sister in law with her in 1851 census.

Ralph Alcock
Residence Place:   Rocester
Marriage Date:   28 Jan 1802
Marriage Place:   Rocester, St Michael, Staffordshire, England
Spouse:   Mary Godwin. Residence Place: Rocester (name likely Goodwin)
Religion:   Anglican
Page number:   124

Likely Death
Name:   Ralph Allcock
Death Age:   67
Birth Date:   1764
Burial Date:   18 Dec 1831
Burial Place:   Mayfield, St John the Baptist, Staffordshire, England
Religion:   Anglican
Page number:   42

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[Red Ash]

Oh thank you.
I did not have the dob or dod before for Ralph.

Thank you again this is so good to have this question all cleared up.

There seems to be a lot of single mothers or widows trying to support each other in difficult times.