Barling GREEN

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Did it mention Barling's occupation on any Census and Jane Collins's father occupation. Any joy on Elizabeth Ann Green and John's wife Sarah Lyne

I don't have access to Ancestry or Find My Past

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1871 Barling is a stock jobber, other censuses living on own means.
Jane's father Charles G Collins, in 1871 age 77,widowed retired Manchester Warehouseman, born Chichester Sussex.
"Manchester" probably refers to fabrics or cotton household goods, eg sheets etc.

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Sons Barling and Henry Harris Green have mother's maiden name of Cole, according to GRO website. There's a marriage for a John Green registered  Exeter district June q 1844 with a Sarah Cole on the same page ref vol 10 p 154

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I assume the Elizabeth Ann you mentioned was the sister of Barling, born 1850 . She went to live with her uncle David Barling Green .I can't find mother Sarah in 1861 or a suitable death reg for her prior to 1861.
1891
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2N4-5W2

1861

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PQ-CBW

1881
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-P7MW

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Thanks for this

I didn't know Barling Green had a sister, just a brother Henry Harris G. If Elizabeth was his sister that would explain why he was her Executor at her d 28.11.1895 Folkestone, Kent, As you indicated she is lodging? with Thomas Eastes & his wife in 1891.

Elizabeth A's uncle David Barling Green m an Elizabeth Eastes & his brother m her sister Mary Eastes. Not sure where Thomas fitted in, poss their nephew. I understand the Eastes can trace their ancesters back to Oberto I Obertenghi, Margrave of Milan, before 1000AD !

The Barling Green's seem to move around a lot

If Jane Collins was 41 in 1871 C she couldn't have d in 1904 Droitwich aged 67. Did it mention in the 1871 C where Jane was b? or any details about her parents, in order to get a fix on Jane's b/bap. Was her father John Gower Collins (d 1873 aged 79) & her mother Charlotte?

Barling, as you mentioned, must have d after 1911. I think both he & Jane appear to disappear

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Jane Collins, daughter of Charles G Collins in 1871 is unmarried age 41 born Chelsea.So born about 1830.

1891 census Jane Green is 54  Born Chelsea

1901 census Jane Green 65 born Chelsea

Obviously had a flexible birthdate, unless she isn't the one Barling was lodging with in 1871?

The marriage certificate should confirm her age and father's name.

Elizabeth A doesn't seem to be with her parents in 1851, but there's a birth reg 1850 June q vol 10 p 99 mmn Cole which fits with the rest of the family . There's also a John Green mmn Cole birth reg Exeter 1848 Dec q.

They could be these children visiting Mary Hay in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:SGN1-HSS

Perhaps you could see if John appears on any other censuses?

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Thanks for the info, apologies for the lateness

Poss good news with regard to Barling/Brian. I don't think he liked the name Barling (who could blame him, sounds like a TV soap!) He is recorded as a widowed lodger in Woodhall Spa, Lincs in 1911 (where they were lodging in 1901) your suggestion to follow up this name was, I think, spot on. It is likely he d there in 1926 - bur 20.2.1926 Woodhall Spa, Lincs aged 80

Jane must have d after 1901 but before 1911. The only poss dates for her d that works for her b  27.10.1828 bap 21.11.1828 Chelsea, London, according to FreeBMD, are 1906 Warwickshire aged 78 or 1904 St Ives, Cambs aged 75. no further details - not much help. They had no children. I believe her parents were Charles Gower Collins & Charlotte Loud m 23.8.1817 W Tarring, Sussex

I wonder, whilst wrinting, whether you expertise could throw light on another Green?

William Allen Green  bap 11.5.1823 Lydd kent, son of William & Ann Allen m 16.12.1819 All Saints, Lydd, Kent. Apart from his bap, there is nothing further. Perhaps he d an infant

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If William was the son of William, farmer 1841 at Lydd, and later stationmaster, he is not on the family memorial or mentioned in his father's will of 1849

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/145802291/william-green

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Thanks
I note from his bap record that he was the son of William & Ann Green, after sister Mary Ann & before brothers Alfred & Robert Green. The eldest son has, as his middle name, his mother's maiden name

There are no burials for Lydd that I can find on FreeReg

Is William's Will available to view online, I didn't know he was a Stationmaster...as well as a farmer & grazier. Could you let me have the details please

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