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Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« on: Sunday 26 March 23 05:31 BST (UK) »
The UK attestation papers for Edward Towlson name his next of kin as "Elizabeth Collingwood Canada". Unfortunately, even close inspection of the image leaves it unclear whether Collingwood is his sister's married name or her place of residence. In either case, I'd like to know of any records that might establish her Canadian history.

She was born in England in 1859 (details below) and must have emigrated between 1871 and 1885. That's because she appears in the English census of 1871 (again, details below) and, since Edward married in 1885 (idem), Elizabeth wouldn't have been named as his next of kin after that date.

(1) Elizabeth Ann Tolson was born on 3 Nov 1859 in Copper House, Phillack, Cornwall, England. Her parents are named as Edward Tolson, stone mason, and Sarah née Honeybone. (Source: birth certificate from GRO, indexed in https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8912/images/ONS_B18594RZ-0561?pId=55658249 under 1859.4 Redruth, vol 5c p 304.)

(2) She may have been baptised as Elizabeth Tolson at St Peter's, Plymouth, Devon, England on 25 Nov 1860, as the daughter of Joseph (sic), mason, and Sarah Tolson of 106 King (possibly Ring) Street. Her date of birth is given as 24 Dec 1859. This date is at odds with the date in the birth certificate, and the father's name is also different, but the location in Plymouth matches item 3 on my list, for which see below. (Source: https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:KCS8-79S?cid=fs_copy)

(3) Elizabeth Tolson, along with her brother Edward and their mother, Sarah, appear in the 1861 census as paupers in the Plymouth Workhouse (though these family relationships are my supposition, and not specified in the entry itself). Elizabeth is aged 1, and - like her brother - said to have been born in Chatham, Kent, England. In spite of the place of birth, I'm persuaded of the identification as:
  • Sarah Tolson, in the entry, is aged 34 and born in Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
  • Edward Tolson is aged 4 and supposedly born in Chatham like Elizabeth, but I find a more convincing birth for him in 1856.4 Alderbury vol 5a p 182, where his father is Alfred (sic), blacksmith, and his mother Sarah née Honeybone. (I've seen a copy of the birth certificate; the index is at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8912/images/ONS_B18564PZ-0804?pId=55658148.)
  • Sarah Honeybone was baptised on 18 Feb 1824 at St Mary's, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England, as the daughter of George and Ann Honeybone. This doesn't quite correspond to her age in 1861, but is close, and the ages of the two children match those of their birth certificates.

(4) Eliza Toulson, aged 11, appears in the 1871 census as an inmate at Union House, Preshute, Wiltshire, England. This institution is just outside Marlborough. Eliza, as in 1861, is said to have born in Chatham. (Source: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7619/images/WILRG10_1906_1910-0139?pId=4245058)

Summing up to this point:
  • Elizabeth appears as Elizabeth Ann in her birth certificate but nowhere else, and in 1871 she is Eliza. Her last name is mostly Tolson but, in 1871, Toulson (and in Edward's attestation papers he is Towlson).
  • Elizabeth's father is given as Edward on the birth certificate but (possibly) as Joseph on the baptismal record - though these two documents differ in her date of birth.
  • There are relatively few Tolsons (or variants) in Cornwall, Devon or Wiltshire around this time. The name is much more common in the north. Thus, documents showing Tolsons in 1860 and 1861 in Plymouth, for example, as in items 2 and 3 above, might relate to the same family in spite of the difficulties just listed.
  • I've been unable to find any Tolson/Honeybone marriages, or any explanation for Chatham as the children's supposed place of birth.
  • Most relevant to this enquiry, I don't know if Elizabeth married before emigrating or, if not, whether she married in Canada. I can't even be sure whether Collingwood was her place of residence, or her married surname.

I've mentioned Edward's attestation papers a number of times; the details they provide were helpfully provided by contributors on another thread (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=871395.msg7426050#msg7426050). To summarise, Edward enlisted in Wiltshire, England in 1876. Elizabeth's name is shown in his attestation papers as his next of kin, but it's not clear if the entry was made at the time of his enlistment or at some later date. Elizabeth's name is then scored through and she is replaced, as next of kin, by Edward's wife, Harriet(t) Jane Hudson, whom he married in 1885.

I'd be very grateful indeed if you could help me find Elizabeth in Canada, as I've been unable to go any further myself than I've set out above.

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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 March 23 20:41 BST (UK) »
This was a strange entry, that seemed interesting.  Can't see Eliza being the daughter of Henry Ines. ??

1911 census Pictou Nova Scotia

Henry G Ines   53   Head. born Nova Scotia.
Eliza J Tolson   43   Daughter. born England.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=img&id=e001975156

there is also a
William Tolson born 1903 listed on separate census.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s7a/

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=img&id=e001975156

There may be ancestry tree claiming William with parents Albert Tolson and Elizabeth Lundy ??

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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 March 23 22:06 BST (UK) »
This was a strange entry, that seemed interesting.  Can't see Eliza being the daughter of Henry Ines. ??

1911 census Pictou Nova Scotia

Henry G Ines   53   Head. born Nova Scotia.
Eliza J Tolson   43   Daughter. born England.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=img&id=e001975156

there is also a
William Tolson born 1903 listed on separate census.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s7a/

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=img&id=e001975156

There may be ancestry tree claiming William with parents Albert Tolson and Elizabeth Lundy ??

Sandra

Thanks for this, Sandra. I have some Nova Scotia Tolsons on my tree - the Albert you mention, who married Eliza Jane Lundy, was my fourth cousin twice removed - but I don't think the Eliza J. you found in the 1911 census is the Elizabeth I'm looking for, as she's about ten years too young.

It's true that Eliza J. Lundy was born in Chatham, Kent, England, which was mentioned in my original post, but I believe this is a coincidence.


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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 March 23 22:59 BST (UK) »
I wondered if she was a home child.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=2980

Which has taken me here

https://www.notlmuseum.ca/research/british-home-children


No 1208 on this list,  but no further information added.

https://www.notlmuseum.ca/research/download/81/11/120

I'm certain you are right - thank you very much. This website (http://www.britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/18220) says that Elizabeth's home institution was the Marlborough Union, which matches the 1871 census entry I mentioned in my original post.

I plan on letting the website know about Elizabeth's history as I understand it: her 1859 birth in Cornwall to Sarah and (possibly) Joseph, and her census entries for 1861 and 1871.

I'm now looking to find out under what circumstances she moved from Niagara-on-the-Lake to Collingwood. They are both in Ontario, but quite distant from one another.

Thanks again.

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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 March 23 01:21 BST (UK) »
This might be her. I don't know about the Scottish part, though.
1881 Census of Peterville, Ontario, Canada
Robert Arkell 53, English, brewer
Maria Theresa Arkell, English, 56
Elizabeth Towlson, Scotch, 21
all born in England, all Church of England. neither woman had an occupation

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:MVDJ-KHQ

I couldn't find this Elizabeth anywhere later*. The Arkells seemed to have moved to London, Ontario, by 1883. Robert might have died there in that year. Maria is on the voter records, or something similar, in London in 1884. So if this is your Elizabeth and she went with the Arkells, her next stop would have been London, Ont.

As to why she would move - wouldn't she be sent out as a servant when she was old enough? Was she a servant or live-in companion in the Arkell home? They had an young Irish woman with them in 1871.

* If you find her earlier in the area, then that would eliminate her as being the person you are looking for.

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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 March 23 06:41 BST (UK) »
This was a strange entry, that seemed interesting.  Can't see Eliza being the daughter of Henry Ines. ??

1911 census Pictou Nova Scotia

Henry G Ines   53   Head. born Nova Scotia.
Eliza J Tolson   43   Daughter. born England.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=img&id=e001975156

there is also a
William Tolson born 1903 listed on separate census.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s7a/

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=img&id=e001975156

There may be ancestry tree claiming William with parents Albert Tolson and Elizabeth Lundy ??

Sandra

Thanks for this, Sandra. I have some Nova Scotia Tolsons on my tree - the Albert you mention, who married Eliza Jane Lundy, was my fourth cousin twice removed - but I don't think the Eliza J. you found in the 1911 census is the Elizabeth I'm looking for, as she's about ten years too young.

It's true that Eliza J. Lundy was born in Chatham, Kent, England, which was mentioned in my original post, but I believe this is a coincidence.

Just to clarify, it appears the above was (according to her Massachusetts naturalization record):
Elizabeth Jane Lundie Tolson, born February 4, 1866, Chatham, Kent, England.
She and Albert (I would imagine Tolson) were married December 1892, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.
Albert was born in Bedford, Nova Scotia in 1851.
Elizabeth had three children, one named William, born Aug 23, 1902, Nova Scotia.  He most likely is the young child from the 1911 census.

William was most likely William Arthur Tolson, born 23 Aug 1902, River John, Nova Scotia. Details from WWII U.S. Draft Card.

I have not yet found an Eliza* Tolson arriving in North America.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 March 23 07:13 BST (UK) »
I wondered if she was a home child.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=2980

Which has taken me here

https://www.notlmuseum.ca/research/british-home-children


No 1208 on this list,  but no further information added.

https://www.notlmuseum.ca/research/download/81/11/120

Looking at the image on Anc*try, mckha489 could have found her sailing.  Gowlson most likely is Towlson.  While the first letter does look like a G on the image, all of the T’s and F’s that I saw on the page have that extra flourish.  Also, it appears that an Emma Gardner is listed, and the G in her surname looks like a G.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Elizabeth née Tolson in Collingwood ON c. 1880
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 March 23 18:08 BST (UK) »
Just to clarify, it appears the above was (according to her Massachusetts naturalization record):
Elizabeth Jane Lundie Tolson, born February 4, 1866, Chatham, Kent, England.
She and Albert (I would imagine Tolson) were married December 1892, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.
Albert was born in Bedford, Nova Scotia in 1851.
Elizabeth had three children, one named William, born Aug 23, 1902, Nova Scotia.  He most likely is the young child from the 1911 census.

William was most likely William Arthur Tolson, born 23 Aug 1902, River John, Nova Scotia. Details from WWII U.S. Draft Card.

I have not yet found an Eliza* Tolson arriving in North America.

Thanks for this, Lisa, but I'm resisting the temptation to explore the Nova Scotia Tolsons and sticking with my original concern here, namely the Elizabeth, a British Home Child, who lived in Ontario.