Andrew MAITLAND of Borthwick's Close, Edinburgh

[jayaygee]

Hello everyone

For many, many years I have been looking - online as I'm not in the UK - for information on the above person or persons, so I really hope someone may be able to help me.
 
Andrew Maitland, a printer of Borthwick’s Close, Edinburgh was the father of :

Catherine Daly Maitland born out of county about 1823, mother’s name unknown ;

Andrew Maitland born 1841, my great grandfather,
Mary Jane Maitland born 1845 probably died before 1851 – no record found,
John Maitland born 1848,

the three children of his mariage in 1841 to Catherine Mcglashan all three born Edinburgh.
Inconveniently, Andrew the printer was not at home when the 1841 census was taken and died before that of 1851.  No record of his death has been found but Catherine née Mcglashan is a widow in 1851.

Catherine Maitland née Mcglashan is at the Borthwick’s Close address in the 1841 census together with Catherine Daly Maitland and Andrew Maitland, aged 69, born out of county who is an « Army P. », which I take to mean Army pensioner.  I have been unable to find any record of a soldier or an Army pensioner named Andrew Maitland and born about 1771.

Andrew Maitland, a printer of Old Assembly Close, married Margaret White in 1835. She may have died in 1836.  This marriage is too late for Margaret to be Catherine Daly’s mother, always supposing the Andrew Maitland is the same one.

I have a lot of information on the children and their descendants and also some on Catherine Mcglashan’s forebears and siblings as well as her second marriage to Hugh Mckay, but would be extremely grateful if anyone could tell me more about either of the two Andrew Maitlands of Borthwick’s Close who I think must be separate individuals unless anyone knows otherwise.

Regards
Judith

[Forfarian]

You didn't say that Andrew Maitland and Catherine McGlashan were married in Edinburgh on 21 January 1841. Can we assume that you have seen the marriage record and that it has not provided any further information?

I took a look on FreeCEN.

The Maitlands in Borthwick's Close in 1841 are Andrew, 69; Catherine, 26; and Catherine, 18, all born outside census county.

I see that Catherine Daly Maitland married Robert Kay in Edinburgh on 4 October 1847, and that they had a daughter Robina, baptised 21 March 1851 in Glasgow. In 1851 they were at 18 Saltmarket Street, Glasgow. Robert Kay, 26; Catharine Kay, 24; Joanna Kay, 2; Robina Kay, one month. According to that census Robert, Catherine and Joanna were all born in Edinburgh.

The younger Catherine's age doesn't stack up at all. She only aged by 6 years in the decade 1841-1851.

Did Robert Kay and family leave Scotland? I don't see them in the 1861 or later. If Catherine had died in Scotland after 1855, her death certificate should have provided her mother's maiden name.

I also see from the 1851 census that Catherine McGlashan or Maitland was born in St Andrews, Fife.

I had a look in some of the Edinburgh trade directories at https://digital.nls.uk/directories/ but found no mention of Andrew Maitland in any of the ones I looked at. I could of course have missed something.

[jayaygee]

Many thanks for your reply, Forfarian.

I do have Catherine Mcglashan's birth in St Andrews in 1816, her marriage to Andrew Maitland, a printer, in January 1841 and most of the info about her descendants and some on her ancestors and siblings.  Also on Catherine Daly Maitland's family - they did move to England, unfortunately!

My problem is with the Andrew Maitland who married Catherine Mcglashan.  I have looked at apprenticeship records online as presumably he would have had to serve one but to no avail.  There may just be clues in the papers of the George Heriot Trust as family legend says his  son, Andrew, also a printer compositor,  attended the Heriot School.  It was not THE school - I inquired a long time ago - so I think it must have been one of the other schools set up for poor orphans. There was one in Old Assembly Close apparently backing on to Borthwick's Close.  I wonder if the admission register survives and, if so, whether they give the reason for a child's admission.  I may be clutching at straws or there may be no truth in the family story.

[Forfarian]

Yes, I thought you probably had more information than you put in your first post.

Have you thought of asking the City of Edinburgh Archives if they have anything that's not online? https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/managing-information/edinburgh-city-archives-1

[jayaygee]

Thank you for that link - I'll certainly contact them.

I had hoped I'd put enough info in my first post but didn't want to make it too long, a difficult balance which apparently I didn't manage to achieve

[Forfarian]

Thank you for that link - I'll certainly contact them.

I had hoped I'd put enough info in my first post but didn't want to make it too long, a difficult balance which apparently I didn't manage to achieve

Very difficult

[middlesbrough]

Baptism for Mary Jane
Born 20.3.1841
Bap. 11.4.1845

Bapt for Andrew
Born 14.10.1841
Bap. 11.4.1845

So both baptized the same date but born only 8 months apart.

Burial for Mary jane which is odd?
Age 2 years
Buried 20.4.1847
Daughter of Andr Maitland

Also another marriage for Andrew

Andrew Maitland
11.1.1835
Printer
Residence Old Assembly Close, Old Kirk
Margaret White
Spouse Residence Borthwick Close, Old Kirk
Father John White, Sewer

[Forfarian]

Very odd. I wonder if Mary Jane's year of birth was perhaps 1845, but the clerk had a slip of the pen/finger/brain when he wrote it down?

It's not all that unusual for more than one child to be baptised at the same time if the birth of a younger one prompts the parents to get the older one(s) done at the same time.

[Millmoor]

The index on SP gives Mary Jane's year of birth as 1845. FindMyPast has a transcription of this OPR and has I suspect mistakenly attributed her year of birth to that of her brother.

William