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Offline CarolineLittle

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Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« on: Thursday 30 March 23 02:02 BST (UK) »
I have birth locations of Poorkonsch Earglockhart which doesn't seem to exist.  Can I have help deciphering the actual location please?  Thanks.
Barnett - Warsaw, Poland/London, England/Tasmania, Australia
Bennett/Jasper - Cornwall, England/Australia
Cuddy - Earl of Meath Liberty, Dublin, Ireland/Tasmania, Australia
Cullen - Leitrim, Ireland/Geelong, Australia 
James - Portugal/St Croix/Geelong and Ballan, Australia
McNair -  Stirlingshire and Lanarkshire, Scotland
Neilson/Frodeson/Knudsen - Norway
Salmon - London and Yorkshire, England/Tasmania, Australia

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 March 23 02:42 BST (UK) »
Caroline, Did you mean to attach something, so we can see what is written?

Without any information, or seeing what is written, I might guess at Craiglockhart - a suburb in the south west of Edinburgh?

Poorkonsch = maybe Poorhouse

See here (scroll down)
https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Edinburgh/
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 March 23 07:24 BST (UK) »
I did forget and will attach it now.  I first saw it on hints in Ancestry Trees and ignored it given it didn't  make sense.   But it was listed as her birthplace in her brothers military records.   Given it's his record there's nothing in it that helps me figure it out.  The family were living in Bathgate West Lothian for her brothers birth 11 months later and for the next sibling.  Always in West Lothian.  HTH.

Thanks Neale.
Barnett - Warsaw, Poland/London, England/Tasmania, Australia
Bennett/Jasper - Cornwall, England/Australia
Cuddy - Earl of Meath Liberty, Dublin, Ireland/Tasmania, Australia
Cullen - Leitrim, Ireland/Geelong, Australia 
James - Portugal/St Croix/Geelong and Ballan, Australia
McNair -  Stirlingshire and Lanarkshire, Scotland
Neilson/Frodeson/Knudsen - Norway
Salmon - London and Yorkshire, England/Tasmania, Australia

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 March 23 07:53 BST (UK) »
Oh! it is one of Ancestry's brillant transcriptions.  :D
I think if you look at the original document it will say "Poorhouse Craiglockhart".

I will see if I can access the original.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 March 23 08:01 BST (UK) »
Yes they're just so helpful!   :D  TY for your help.
Barnett - Warsaw, Poland/London, England/Tasmania, Australia
Bennett/Jasper - Cornwall, England/Australia
Cuddy - Earl of Meath Liberty, Dublin, Ireland/Tasmania, Australia
Cullen - Leitrim, Ireland/Geelong, Australia 
James - Portugal/St Croix/Geelong and Ballan, Australia
McNair -  Stirlingshire and Lanarkshire, Scotland
Neilson/Frodeson/Knudsen - Norway
Salmon - London and Yorkshire, England/Tasmania, Australia

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 March 23 08:07 BST (UK) »
Although that part of the document is a bit patchy,  Yes it clearly says "Poorhouse"
- The next bit which is less clear is "Craiglockhart"
Then there is an address in 29 Deans Row Bathgate, which is where they were living in 1915 when the father attested to join the army. Bathgate is in West Lothian.

I read it as Ethel was born in 1913 at the Craiglockhart Poorhouse, and the other two boys were born in Bathgate at Deans Row.

I am sure someone will come along in the next "shift" and give you more information, in the meanwhile there is the link I posted above to the poorhouse.



Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 March 23 08:11 BST (UK) »
Brilliant!  I've just been reading up on it, very interesting.
Barnett - Warsaw, Poland/London, England/Tasmania, Australia
Bennett/Jasper - Cornwall, England/Australia
Cuddy - Earl of Meath Liberty, Dublin, Ireland/Tasmania, Australia
Cullen - Leitrim, Ireland/Geelong, Australia 
James - Portugal/St Croix/Geelong and Ballan, Australia
McNair -  Stirlingshire and Lanarkshire, Scotland
Neilson/Frodeson/Knudsen - Norway
Salmon - London and Yorkshire, England/Tasmania, Australia

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 March 23 08:14 BST (UK) »
You can and should view her original birth certificate at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Ethel Sinclair McIntyre, birth registered in Colinton 1913, district 677, no 57.

Duncan McIntyre, mother's maiden surname Webster, registered in Bathgate 1914/662.1/144
Thomas McIntyre, mmn Webster, Bathgate 1916/662.1/73

Parents' marriage Bathgate 1913/662.1/58 will tell you the full names of both the couple's parents, including their mothers' maiden names.

And see https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Help deciphering Poorkonsch Earglockhart
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 March 23 08:20 BST (UK) »
It looks like Thomas Kerr McIntyre spent much of his life in Bathgate at 28 Deans Row. The family is there in the 1901 census, and the father Duncan is listed as occupier there in 1905 - 1915. By 1920 he had moved to no. 10 Deans Row.
Looks as if Thomas and wife and family stayed with his parents for a while then.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)