James Wheeler and Harriett Pepper

[rwheeler1234]

After more than 20yrs research, I have found that I have collected information about the wrong JAMES WHEELER (abt 1780?). My ancestor was par of the 1820 British Settlers to South Africa. His wife, HARRIETT PEPPER was born in Folkestone, Kent on 17 Aug 1774. They married on 20 May 1804 in Christ Church, Southwark, Southwark. Up to now I have researched the James WHEELER's from Wiltshire and have found sufficient documentation indicating that none of them married Harriett PEPPER. As a direct descendant of these two, I have just about completed their descendants in South Africa. I moved to the UK in 2022 and would really like to link my research to the family in the UK. Due to a fire on the 17th May 1942, the marriage register entries from 1803 to 1806 seems to have been destroyed. I have been able to obtain a damaged copy of their Banns. I believe that the missing marriage certificate would provide info on them and their families.

[Pheno]

Sorry but there won't be a marriage certificate for this point in time.  Prior to the commencement of civil registration in July 1837 you will have to rely on the entries in the parish registers.  It is unlikely that these registers will show the parents of the two parties as this info was not required at this time.

Pheno

[Dundee]

If Harriet had a second marriage to William JESSAMINE in 1832 and a daughter baptised in 1833 then biology tells you that it is highly unlikely that Harriet was born in 1774.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GTWM-SWMJ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GTWM-S7Q6

Debra 

[rosie99]

What proof do you have that Harriett was born at Folkestone

ADDED I can see the baptism at Folkestone but there is also a possible marriage for her in 1805 Folkestone to a John Bateman

[rwheeler1234]

Harriett Pepper christening:Notice of christening: Faversham, Kent, England -Ancestry.com. England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014

[rosie99]

Have you discounted the Harriet Pepper who was born 21 Oct 1786 and baptised 26 Oct 1786 at St Margaret, Westminster - her mother was Hannah no father named.  It needs to be checked but as she was born in London it is more likely than the Kent records you are looking at

[Dundee]

His wife, HARRIETT PEPPER was born in Folkestone, Kent on 17 Aug 1774.

It was Elizabeth PEPPER who was baptised on that day.

Name    Elizabeth PEPPER
Birth Place    Folkestone, England
Baptism Date    17 Aug 1774
Baptism Place    Folkestone, Kent, England
Father    William PEPPER
Mother    Elizabeth
FHL Film Number    1736721

Name    Elizth. PEPPER
Baptism Date    17 Aug 1774
Baptism Place    Faversham, Kent, England
Father    William PEPPER
Mother    Elizth.
FHL Film Number    1751866

She married in 1792 to John HART.

Name   Elizabeth PEPPER
Marriage Date   10 Jul 1792
Marriage Place   Folkestone, Kent, England
Spouse   John HART
FHL Film Number   1736721

Canterbury marriage licences show the bride as aged 18, daughter of William PEPPER.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Elizabeth had a sister Harriet.

Name    Harriett PEPPER
Baptism Date    29 Aug 1784
Baptism Place    Faversham, Kent, England
Father    William PEPPER
Mother    Elizabeth
FHL Film Number    1751866

Name    Harriott PEPPER
Gender    Female
Baptism Date    29 Aug 1784
Baptism Place    Folkestone, Kent, England
Father    William PEPPER
Mother    Elizabeth
FHL Film Number    1736721

She married in 1805 to John BATEMAN.

Harriet PEPPER
Marriage Date    2 Jan 1805
Marriage Place    Faversham, Kent, England
Spouse    John BATEMAN
FHL Film Number    1751866

Name    Harriet PEPPER
Marriage Date    2 Jan 1805
Marriage Place    Folkestone, Kent, England
Spouse    John BATEMAN
FHL Film Number    1736721

Canterbury marriage licences show the bride as aged 20, daughter of William PEPPER.

Debra 

[Bookbox]

Up to now I have researched the James WHEELER's from Wiltshire and have found sufficient documentation indicating that none of them married Harriett PEPPER.

Just for background, is this your James Wheeler, applying to emigrate?
https://www.eggsa.org/1820-settlers/index.php/pre-1820-letters/w-menu/1282-sp-49951276

https://www.eggsa.org/1820-settlers/index.php/additional-information/uvw-surnames/1674-wheeler-james-extra-data