Daniel Booth

[jonw65]

Hi
If it is at all possible that Daniel was later a mariner, there is just one in the merchant seamen's records (which start 1835)
In BT112 and BT120

Daniel Booth, born Dublin. Age 40 in 1835 or 1836.
On the Carraboo of Liverpool in 1836.
Mary in 1837
Hannah in 1837
America in 1838
Harmony in 1840??
But it says he Died 10 Augt 1839

[jonw65]

Died 10 Aug 1839

[jonw65]

So in 1861 Elizabeth Booth was in Mansfield Street.
There are a few trees on ancestry, sparse details in them, they don't have a death for her.
Was she still alive in 1871? And at 29 Back Mansfield Street. Is it her?
Elizabeth Booth Head Widow 67 House Keeper, born Liverpool.
Has four lodgers.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBXD-NYZ

Where is Elizabeth's death/burial
In Liverpool we have a burial at Anfield Cemetery, 12 Sep 1876
Elizabeth Booth
3 Court, Back Mansfield Street
Buried in a public grave
Age is 60, which would be way out. Unless there was some bad information given!  Death reg also says 60.

Order book is no help. Buried in consecrated ground
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T1-DRJY

Doolittle, do you have Elizabeth's death, in Liverpool or anywhere?

[doolittle72]

No, I don't!  I had the same difficulty as you with the ages.  I must admit she only added 8 years or so each census so I expect it is a distinct possibility that is Elizabeth.  I have searched for her death and burial.  I know she wasn't keen on making her mark so to speak, as she couldn't read or write and I think she depended on Daniel to make these marks in life.
I have thought the 1871 census was Elizabeth but failed to find her death which you seem to have done.  I am very grateful for that.
As for Daniel, I will have to check out the details of the man you have found in the seaman's register as I have no idea where he came from.  Perhaps it would explain why William who was born around 1835/6 was not baptised/registered if Daniel had gone to sea but it doesn't explain John.
Agnes

[jonw65]

Hi
I think of my suggestions, perhaps the Blalock birth/baptism of Henry (George Henry) seems the most promising (to me anyway!)
The sea record, well it seems to be the only Daniel Booth available! Five of the six entries have the number 62, which seems to be the port number for Liverpool.
I'm not sure what vessel the fifth one is, but "81" is for Port Glasgow.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/abbreviations-merchant-seamens-records/

It doesn't sit so well with the Henry death certificate from September 1839 though. But I would keep him in mind.

The Elizabeth death in 1876, well I can't see who it might be at the moment. So it is not beyond the realms of possibility that it is your lady who lived in Mansfield Street, but the age is all wrong of course. Perhaps something else will come up about it.
John

[doolittle72]

Thank you for all your posts, you have helped a great deal.
I sent for the certificate for Elizabeth's death and it was hers - she was registered by her eldest grand-daughter Eliza Booth (Robert's daughter).
Looking at the records of the seaman's records I wonder if it is possible they made a mistake in the year of death as Daniel signed on The Harmony on the 12th February, 1840 and therefore couldn't have died in August 1839.  That is a bit of a puzzle!  If it was August 1840 that would be an explanation of where he went.
Thank you once again for all your efforts to help me, they are very much appreciated.
Doolittle

[wivenhoe]

"In all the children's marriage certs Daniel was described as a shoemaker and deceased".

Can you identify the children and the marriages please.

Lancashire online Parish clerks
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Baptism: 4 Sep 1839 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Henry Booth - [Child] of Daniel Booth & Elizabeth
Abode: Circus St
Occupation: Mariner
   
Marriage: 31 May 1853 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Booth - (X), Full, Mariner, Bachelor, Circus St
Groom's Father: Daniel Booth, Mariner

Harriet Owen - (X), Full, Spinster, Gay St
Bride's Father: Michael Owen, Bricklayer
Witness: Daniel Cardwell; Ellen Moore

   

[doolittle72]

Hi
Daniel & Elizabeth's first son was Robert Martin Booth.  He married Sarah Ann Sharples in Liverpool on 31st August, 1856 (Daniel Shoemaker).  John's you have seen for yourself.  William married twice.  First was to Elizabeth Kinsade or Kinrade in Liverpool on 10th December, 1856 and after she died he married Elizabeth Shepherd in Warrington on 25th December, 1859.  Both said Daniel was a shoe/bootmaker.
Henry's death was registered by Elizabeth who stated Son of Daniel Booth - bootmaker.
I have always felt that the record of Henry's baptism in St. John's Old Haymarket was an error on the part of the curate - but perhaps not.
Doolittle

[doolittle72]

Hi Folks
I have checked out the Mariner records and the fact that it said Daniel Booth died in August 1839.  I worried about the date of the last voyage of 12/2/1840.  Apparently the date is when the crew list was filed on the return of the vessel.  The master had to file a crew list etc when the vessel returned to port.
Daniel was still alive when Henry was baptised on 4th September 1839 and therefore it could not have been him.  I have also tried to buy a certificate for a death of a Daniel Booth in Leeds in December 1840 only to find it pertained to a two year old child.
Still searching!
Doolittle