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Help with name of bride's mother - Completed.
« on: Wednesday 05 April 23 09:06 BST (UK) »
I would appreciate help with deciphering the name of Isabella WILSON's mother.  This snip taken from a Victoria, Australia 1863 marriage certificate.  ?Grace WILEY.   This is the only resource that shows Isabella's mother's name.  She was born in Ireland in 1833.
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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 09:16 BST (UK) »
I would be inclined to agree with Wiley as the surname.  Grace is certainly a possibility.  Are there any other letters on the certificate to compare with the G?
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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 09:23 BST (UK) »
Sadly no.....I've spent ages trying to decipher it.  Thank you for your suggestions.
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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 09:35 BST (UK) »
I think it might start with Q and if I really try I can see a u after it.

Possible also a y as ending.  Much of its lower loop being lost.

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ADDING.  Alternatively-
It might be GEARY or similar.

Not really given names!
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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 09:44 BST (UK) »
I think it's Mary, with an initial flourish at the top of the M.

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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 09:45 BST (UK) »

The Star 17 Feb 1863 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/72554961?
On the 16th February, at Christ Church, by the Rev. John Potter, Philip H. Puryer, second son of
Robert Puryer, licensed victualler, London, to Isabella, third daughter of the late Rev. Robert Wil-
son, Wesleyan Minister, Omagh, Tyrone, Ireland.

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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 10:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you Wivenhoe...actually have that notice.  I have all the info except the name of her mother....fairly important in researching the WILSON family and my ancestors.  Rev Robert WILSON"s second wife Anastasia SKELTON was my gggrandmother's sister.  I have only discovered he was was married twice. 
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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 10:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your suggestions....I'll certainly take them on board :)
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Re: Help with name of bride's mother
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 10:22 BST (UK) »
With proper names that are difficult to read – in any hand and at any date – it can be helpful to start at the end and go backwards, because the first capital letter is often the most elaborate and therefore the hardest to decipher.

In this example, you also have to take into account that some of the penstrokes are broken, and provide them with your mind’s eye.

Bearing that in mind, the last three letters here are clearly …ary (compare -ry- in Puryer). So you would expect the first letter to be M, which I believe it is, with an initial flourish at the top. Once you have seen that M, it’s hard to read the name as anything other than Mary.