O'Brien, Murray and Smythe.

[margnip2]

Sorry about the size of that.

Heywood, I am not having problems with Julia O'Brien she is my grandads mother and I have a copy of her marriage cert.  Thank you for your help though.  It is her grandfather that is causing the confusion.

[rosie17]

Yes  you are right Heywood about Thru Lines they are not accurate..Never go by hints on Ancestry without checking first for yourself ..I just ignore them 

Rosie

[heywood]

Sorry about the size of that.

Heywood, I am not having problems with Julia O'Brien she is my grandads mother and I have a copy of her marriage cert.  Thank you for your help though.  It is her grandfather that is causing the confusion.

I realise that but I was hoping that you could work back by using records which include occupations, places etc.
John Dawson was a barrister and his marriage shows he was a bachelor so it seems safe to say he is not your ancestor.

[margnip2]

Thanks again Heywood.  The ThruLines may not be accurate and that is what I am trying to find out before I accept or dismiss.  It is telling me there is 1 DNA match for Charlotte Dawson of 148 centimorgans.  The same for her father Rev William Dawson.

[margnip2]

I do research anything that comes up about my family tree, not adding until I know for sure.  Have not been doing the family tree for a while because of circumstances.  But have started it up again, so this is just one thing I need to get sorted.  I do need to get the birth of John O'Brien and Cathrine Murray to sort this out once and for all.  Which is why I have asked for help.

[rosie17]

I would think the birth of their first son  Christopher going by naming tradition would have been named after the father of John O' Brien
I did see this baptism Ireland Catholic Parish Records
John Brien
Baptism 27 June 1818
Swords Dublin Ireland
Father Christr Brien
Mother Mary Karney

Rosie

[margnip2]

Once again thanks everyone.