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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #18 on: Friday 07 April 23 04:09 BST (UK) »

Prov Probate file for Robert WALSH, died 1873, Victoria,

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/156171BF-F1D0-11E9-AE98-FF01A8B5C441?image=8

has signature for Mary WALSH, sole beneficiary. Mary WALSH, born ~ 1820 Co. Cork Ireland, is literate, with a good signature, written with confidence by a controlled hand. 

This is useful to know when considering any siblings for Mary MURPHY, and who might have emigrated to NSW/VIC. They should also be literate?

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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #19 on: Friday 07 April 23 04:38 BST (UK) »


James Walsh's death certificate lists Patrick Walsh (son) as the informant. Mary's certificate is difficult to read but indicates the informant was a person present at her magisterial inquiry into her death by drowning. It looks like the name Carkhill...? On Francis's birth certificate, Mary is listed as the informant.


Constable Thomas CORKILL was the officer called at the discovery of the body..

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/F227D40D-F1BD-11E9-AE98-AB69DEB72D9F?image=8

 
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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #20 on: Friday 07 April 23 04:58 BST (UK) »

Prov Probate file for Robert WALSH, died 1873, Victoria,
has signature for Mary WALSH, sole beneficiary. Mary WALSH, born ~ 1820 Co. Cork Ireland, is literate, with a good signature, written with confidence by a controlled hand. 
That’s interesting, wivenhoe.
The immigration record I posted in reply #3 was for a woman who could read and write.
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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #21 on: Friday 07 April 23 05:30 BST (UK) »
Hi, everyone. Thanks for your input and I will try and address as much as possible  ;D

Sue - good pick up about her age being 60, according to Patrick at the inquest. I picked up on that as well and cannot explain it  ???. If Alice is born in Bathurst and both James and Mary were married in Bathurst and both the records are missing, maybe there's a problem with the Bathurst records with transcription. I might be able to look at the microfilms at the state library of NSW.

Wivenhoe - Robert's birth certificate was prior to registration in Victoria. It only has his name and James and Mary Walsh as parents. Nothing much to go on with the early ones. Good point regarding her literacy, Neale.

I have Alice's death certificate and it lists both James and Mary Walsh as her parents. Would she do this if Mary was a step-parent? I have her inquest file and Mary writes that Alice is her daughter at the inquest into her death:

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/A1A8A01B-F1B8-11E9-AE98-154F0CC9566F?image=1

However, I will keep what you said in mind about her not being Alice's biological mother.

James Walsh Jr lists his parents as James (farmer) and Mary Murphy on his wedding certificate.

I do not know much about James Sr apart from him being born in Co. Meath but will try news articles in that region. I assumed they were not a wealthy family.




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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #22 on: Friday 07 April 23 05:53 BST (UK) »
You might find this news item interesting.

About John MARSHALL, responsible agent for the bringing to Australia of many immigrants, including the Mary Anne MURPHY suggested by Neale.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12872981
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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #23 on: Friday 07 April 23 06:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue. I will try look up more information in the Bounty Index. That was a good discovery by Neale.

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Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #25 on: Friday 07 April 23 07:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Neale

Ages ago, I found a baptism record for Mary Murphy born on 8th February 1820, in Enniskean, Cork, with no parents named. It was in the Parish records. I could not read any of it for the life of me it was so faded.

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Re: The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era
« Reply #26 on: Friday 07 April 23 07:35 BST (UK) »


"Robert Walsh's certificate from BDM Victoria in 1848 "

Can you give all the information on this document. It will be a baptism record.

If this is an image of a page from a baptism log can you identify what other baptisms are recorded.