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James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« on: Thursday 06 April 23 10:07 BST (UK) »
Good Morning
Trying this one for a friend
She has a James Allen puddler born 1844 living in Wednesbury.
The censuses there give his birthplace as Birmingham
While his marriage to Mary Eliza Webb 28 Feb 1869 at Wednesbury St John gives his father as James Allen fishmonger.
All lovely ,except no sigh of a James Allen fishmonger.
Can anyone find the key for this Allen?

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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 April 23 14:26 BST (UK) »
Census for James ranges from born 1841-1844

Reg Birmingham;

ALLEN, JAMES  1842 mmn    PHILLIPS 

ALLEN, JAMES  1842 mmn    TAYLOR 

ALLEN, JAMES 1845  mmn  FOSTON 

ALLEN, JAMES  1845 mmn    TENNANT 

ALLEN, JAMES  THOMAS 1844 mmn  SHAKESHAFT 
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 April 23 10:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that Trish
I've managed to find the name of some of those parents .
James Allen and Sarah Phillips but he's a coral carver
Thomas Allen and Ann Taylor
James Allen and Ann Fosten married Radford and returned there with son James.
James Allen and Fanny Tennent married 23.10.1831 St Martins  ,but he's a bookseller
And I just don't know

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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 April 23 11:34 BST (UK) »
I cant pin him down 1851/1861, even without a Father James  ::)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 April 23 12:32 BST (UK) »
Hi
Nor me

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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 April 23 15:57 BST (UK) »
Maybe he was a fictitious fishmonger.
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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 April 23 22:06 BST (UK) »

James Allen
Birth Date    27 Sep 1845
Baptism Date    19 Jun 1846 Birmingham, St Martin,

Father    James Allen
Mother    Mary Allen

There's a 31 yr old widow Mary Allen with children Charlotte b c1843 and James b c1846 on 1851 in Burslem

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Re: James Allen born c 1844 Birmingham
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 April 23 22:14 BST (UK) »
Charlotte matches a daughter of James the bookseller and Fanny! Very confusing
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