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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 08 April 23 10:01 BST (UK) »
You said you have access to Ancestry

The baptisms for James and Thomas were in Wensley parish and are available to view
James baptism 1817

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62236/images/62228_324054000599_2876-00039?

Thomas baptism 1819

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/62236/images/62228_324054000599_2876-00051?

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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 April 23 10:38 BST (UK) »
A comparison of John Hillary’s signatures on the marriage record (upper) and the military discharge (lower).
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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 April 23 10:56 BST (UK) »
Lots of useful info there for you A Smithy thanks to Boo and AlanBoyd :)
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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 April 23 10:58 BST (UK) »
This, from his discharge, places John Hillary in Ireland in February 1814.

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"in consequence of incontinence of Urine, occasioned by a fall from his Horse near the Man of War when escorting the Mail Coach in Feb. 1814"

The Man of War (or Man o’ War) is a famous pub in the village of the same name lying north of Dublin and about half way to Drogheda.
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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 08 April 23 16:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you for sending the links to the baptism records. I have grown stronger in confidence that the information on these trees are correct. Especially finding out that John was in the DragoonGuards.

The signatures on look very alike. A very smart way of helping identify something, to be honest. I will have to try and remember that.

Yeah, there definitely is, you have all done fantastic work! Thank you.

Oh that's a shame, So he was discharged in 1814?

I am at the computer now so able to spend a bit more time on it.

I did not know that the wife/family would go along with the regiment, I always assumed they stayed at home, to be honest. Very interesting.

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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 April 23 18:42 BST (UK) »
Could you provide a link to his Fold3 Pension record please? I am having trouble accessing the site as it keeps taking me to the warforcesrecord wesbite.
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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 08 April 23 19:07 BST (UK) »
Here it is – pages 133, 134.

https://www.fold3.com/image/584370451
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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 April 23 20:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you for sending the links to the baptism records. I have grown stronger in confidence that the information on these trees are correct. Especially finding out that John was in the DragoonGuards.

I suspect that the records on ancestry are, as they often are, 'indexed records' from Family Search, billed as England & Wales births and baptisms dataset.

Nothing wrong with that as long as folk are aware that these type of datasets are bare bones transcripts which are a 'pointer' to finding and viewing the original records to see if there 'may' be more info that has not been transcribed.

For the time period and area of Edmund's baptism the Bishop, Shute Barrington had an interest in genealogy and decreed that the clergy included genealogical info such as that found in the Bishops transcript image I gave you a link to.

The potential 'extra' info can be invaluable and can make a huge difference to the decision whether or not a particular record is the right one or not.

Bottom line is, no matter what a tree says, no matter what a barebones (child's name, names of parents and dates) record says its always worth firkling round to see if we can see the original record on the offchance that an extra tiny bit of info will get us further forward (or, indeed, backwards!)

The good news is that if you are unsure you have now found a place to ask questions and find out a little more about the how and where to search and find the info you need.

Stick around, read the posts, ask  for help if you need it. It will pay dividends :-)

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Re: Children of John Hillary and Sarah Raymert
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 09 April 23 09:05 BST (UK) »
With regards to Christopher his wife Rachel nee Corbett remarried 1859.

1861 we have;
Charles Winter 25   Head
Rachel Winter   26   Wife
John Corbett Winter 9/12   Son
Mary Corbitt 67   Mother-in-law

Rachel/Christopher only had 1 Son and he died soon after birth;
Matthew Colbert Hillary bapt 14 Aug 1855 Goole
Death reg Sept 1855

Cant find Christopher 1841/1851 Census but that is not surprising seeing he was a Mariner.

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