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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 09 April 23 23:58 BST (UK) »
thanks again ohio
wow a muddy waters connection i prefer the Stovall solution

 I think Louise is too old to be the daughter of Willie BUT maybe  "Aquilla" s step daughter

AQuillas  age differs as much as her spelling

 interpretation on different censuses 1908 0r 1912
louise b 1921 could be rounded up ( so not impossible if first date)

willies grandmother prIscilla was age 42 when he was 8 so definitely some under 16 births occuring


The relevant tree on ancestry is called JOHNSON-JANE family tree
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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #19 on: Monday 10 April 23 00:45 BST (UK) »
It may not mean anything other than they were neighbours, but:

According to a 1941 plane manifest, Thomas L Johnson lived at 6534 NW 14 Ct.

In the 1945 census, Willie Lightburn lived at 6540 NW 14 Ct.
By the 1947 directory, and also in the 1950 census, Willie lived at 6534 NW 14 Ct.

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #20 on: Monday 10 April 23 01:42 BST (UK) »
1920 Census, Miami
at 14 Princeton Avenue
Thomas L Johnson, 39, arrived 1906, born Bahamas, porter, hotel
Lucy E Johnson, 34, arrived 1906, Bahamas
Myrial Johnson, 14, born in Florida
Doris Johnson, 10, Florida
Thomas 10, Parker 6, Alonzo 2, all born Florida

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNYH-J5D

but, is this him:
Mertys Johnson, born 23 Aug 1906, Gregory Town & Hatchet Bay Eleuthera, Bahamas
mother: Lucy (Bethel) Johnson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVNX-XMKL

Marion Johnson, b 4 Nov 1904, Gregory Town & Hatchet Bay Eleuthera, Bahamas
parents: Thomas Lamond Johnson and Lucy (Bethel) Johnson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK8P-34NM


1940 Census, Miami
6534 NW 14 Ct
Thomas L Johnson, 61, marital status unreadable, 8 years school, born in West Indies, salesman, real estate
Doris Johnson, 25, wife, married, 2 years college, born in Florida, maid, private home
Marie Johnson, 19, daughter, widowed, 8 years school, born in Florida, nurse maid, private home
Roslyn Wilburn, 3, granddaughter, born in Florida
all Negro
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTZZ-BG8

1945, by himself, same address
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNF4-YLV

returning to US, August 12, 1941
born Nassau, Bahamas, widowed
in US since 1906
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YV-ZSW1-7?i=143&cc=2493439

Social Security Files
b 20 November 1881
claim date: 23 November 1951
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6KSP-5C2Q


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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #21 on: Monday 10 April 23 01:44 BST (UK) »
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who is
Precilla Johnson, b 7 October 1877 Gregory Town, Bahamas
father: Simon Johnson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLN1-651

put this on US Lookup requests and see if you get any response.
newspapers.com
Name    Pearline Lightbourn
Residence Date    7 Jun 1950
Residence Place    Miami, Florida, USA
Newspaper Title    The Miami News


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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #22 on: Monday 10 April 23 01:46 BST (UK) »
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there were other William Lightbourns who were born in the Bahamas and lived in Miami in 1930
1. b 1881, Bahamas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:S5WB-5T2

2. b 1868, Bahamas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:S5WS-M3Z

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #23 on: Monday 10 April 23 02:15 BST (UK) »
Tho William lightbourne b 1881 with wife Bella Lizzie  Allen had 6 children with her  she had 3 from previous husband

* The ALLEN  children of Bella full ,& half siblings alternate between using surnames ALLEN &  LIGHTBOURNE

William.He had 6 children with  1st wife  Marion Roper  eldest being Priscilla


1940 census has Thomas L JOHNSON with wife Dora who is actually his daughter 
Thomas s wife was Lucy / Lula bethel

Precilla Johnson is Willie lightbourne ( formerly Johnson )s grandmother

There are lots of reason to believe these Johnson's are all connected but it's working out how Thomas L JOHNSON is connected   


Can I give link to the tree where I'm adding information I find ( some floating branches so you have to do a people search

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/186834497/family

Ohio I don't understand what you mean about US requests which site ?

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #24 on: Monday 10 April 23 02:18 BST (UK) »


Ohio I don't understand what you mean about US requests which site ?

Ancestry has a newspaper article with her name.  All it is, is a list of graduates from a high school, in which her name appears.

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #25 on: Monday 10 April 23 02:31 BST (UK) »
The William LIGHTBOURNE b 1868 + son are white so can be ruled out unless he is Willies birth father
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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #26 on: Monday 10 April 23 02:50 BST (UK) »
Willie Lightburn said on his citizenship papers that he entered the country as a Johnson, on 15 Jan 1915, on the SS Miami.

We think that the 1920 census where he is a Lightburn with young grandma Priscilla Johnson is him.

On the SS Miami, porting 16 Jan 1915 from Nassau is:
A 2 yr old William Johnson travelling with 48 yo Priscilla Johnson, her sister, Estelle Davis, (wife of Robert Davis living at Flagler St and Ave 3, Miami) and on the second page, lists her brother as Joseph Johnson.  Joseph is indicated as William's uncle.  (Somehow 7 yrs later, Priscilla is still 48!  What is her secret!?)
How William is related is a scribbled mess; I can't tell what they were trying to write over the original entry. It somewhat looks like "brother" half crossed out with something over top.

All three aboard were born in the Bahamas, but I can't make out exactly where.  I believe it says, Andros Island, Nicholls Town.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/2846809:8842?

Heavily edited for silly mistakes.  Insufficient coffee today!

Edited again to carry on!

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/3946925:8842?tid=&pid=&queryId=30d79d4247c9ff8b42dac90ba594eb93&_phsrc=ylZ13875&_phstart=successSource

Estelle Davis had a daughter named Alberta.  On Alberta's citizenship papers, she states she came in 1911, aboard the Admiral. 
Sure enough, she is on the manifest with mother Estelle, on lines 5 and 6. Estelle's mother is named. It is a two page form, so remember to check the second page.

Now look down the passenger list to lines 11 and 12.   ;D ;D

Alberta's citizenship:  https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/3104201:1850