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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #27 on: Monday 10 April 23 08:57 BST (UK) »
Bbart you are truly amazing.
I hope to find those records and see the originals
# doh just realised the links show the originals

Need some time and sustainance to investigate all that

If Priscilla s age on boat is correct it means I found the wrong Bahamas birth record !
# doh of course not same person Priscilla JOHNSON with father Simon
Married Priscilla will have had different surname

Thanks for writing so clearly .
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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #28 on: Monday 10 April 23 09:47 BST (UK) »
Catching up
I presume Joseph Johnson was Priscilla's brother in law not brother
# edited:   Estelle Davies her sister in law
Working theory ...i.ll look out for mother clothilde in other records

I don't know Priscilla s maiden name yet

The floating branch is getting wider

Priscilla s grandson may be connected to my friends paternal Cornish side who may have had a lightbourne in their family
And not to his maternal African JOHNSON grandfather at all

# edited
I.ll share ethnicity findings on a separate post
It's of interest to DNA buffs
The Johnson surname is prolific

Keeping this lightbourne Johnson fascinating search separate for now .
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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #29 on: Monday 10 April 23 16:17 BST (UK) »
Catching up
I presume Joseph Johnson was Priscilla's brother in law not brother
Unless she married a Johnson.

Your earlier question about when Ghanaians arrived in the Bahamas: probably before the slave trade was abolished, unless they were brought there illegally. I can't picture a lot of free movement between black Africans and the Bahamas until very recently. Of course British officials and citizens may have travelled back and forth.

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On that 15 Jan 1915 arrival of Estelle Davis, Priscilla Johnson, and William Johnson - Priscilla's brother Joseph Johnson, her contact person, was in Nichols Town, Bahamas. The location might come in handy later.

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here is Lula (Bethel) Johnson's first trip to the US. But before they asked for contacts in the previous country:
   
Arrived 17 July 1907 at Miami, from Nassau 16 July 1907, schooner Hattie Darling
Lula Johnson, 23, married, cook, last residence: Hatchet Bay, destination: husband Thomas L Johnson, born: Hatchet Bay
Jane Bethel, 33, married, wash woman, last res: Cove, Gregory Town, destination: husband James I Bethel, born: Cove, Gregory Town
neither had been in the US before

I don't my link to ancestry will work. I couldn't convert Bbart's to my format. But the record was easy enough to find.
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Edit: this might not be him.
Likewise, Thomas' arrival, if correct, was before they asked for contacts in the Bahamas. This might be him:
Arrived Miami 23 November 1906, from Nassau 21 November 1906   
Thomas Johnson, 29, last res: Cove, Gregory Town, destination: brother Joseph Johnson. born Cove, Gregory Town
may be travelling with
George Johnson, 26, of and born in Cove, Gregory Town, destination: cousin Joseph Johnson

however on the same page is
London Johnson, 23, of and born in Hatchet Bay, destination: brother Thomas L Johnson.

so take your choice.
And it must have been a tougher sail in November than in April.



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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #30 on: Monday 10 April 23 16:37 BST (UK) »
Florida Naturalizations
U.S District Court, 25 March 1942, Miami
Thomas Lemorn Johnson
of 6534 N W 14th Court, Miami
59, born 12 January 1882, Hatchet Bay
occupation: real estate
wife: Lucy Rolle, born in Nassau, married 26 December 1936 in Miami
children: Muriel Ricks b 3 Nov 1906, Hatchet Bay, Doris, 29 Oct 1910, Thomas 3 July 1908, Marie McCall 11 Jan 1916, Alonzo 11 Jan 1914. all others born in Miami.
arrived from Bimini at Miami on 26 September 1906 under the name of Thomas L Johnson
last foreign residence: Hatchet Bay

edit: the ship was the Schooner Hazel Dell
there was a previous declaration of intention in "1925"


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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #31 on: Monday 10 April 23 16:45 BST (UK) »
Yes I LL have to find out if priscilla is a sister or sister in law .before I can add the Johnsons on tree properly
At the moment I have her as parent of Johnson of unknown gender parent to Willie  and I have her spouse  as potential brother with a tag

Maybe I will find more baptisms

Need to summarise findings so far

Especially as I'm in now  contact with a granddaughter of Willie

I'd like to persue the white William LIGHTBOURNE on a separate forum.and see if he connects to any Cornish origin people

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #32 on: Monday 10 April 23 16:49 BST (UK) »
Especially as I'm in now  contact with a granddaughter of Willie
I'd like to persue the white William LIGHTBOURNE on a separate forum.and see if he connects to any Cornish origin people

I was going to look at the 2 William Lightbourns in Miami also.
Can you tell us when Willie Johnson/Lightbourn's son was born?
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Here is Thomas L Johnson's earlier declaration of intention:

Declaration of Intention
US District Court, Miami
3 March 1924
Thomas Lemorn Johnson, 44, a porter, born in Eleuthria Island, B W I on 12 January 1880
live at 1601 NW 2nd Ave, Miami?
arrived from Nassau on the Hazel, at Miami 25 September 1904
last foreign residence: Eleuthria Island
wife: Lula, born B W I, lives with him in Miami

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #33 on: Monday 10 April 23 16:53 BST (UK) »
Yes I LL have to find out if priscilla is a sister or sister in law .before I can add the Johnsons on tree properly
At the moment I have her as parent of Johnson of unknown gender parent to Willie  and I have her spouse  as potential brother with a tag
My guess is she was Willie's aunt, not his grandmother. The arrival said Estelle, Priscilla, and Joseph were brother and sisters. And Willie was Joseph's nephew.

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #34 on: Monday 10 April 23 18:12 BST (UK) »
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I don't know when Willie's son was born.hes not answered my Ancestry message he's been a member since 2018 last active on Ancestry 3 months ago
* He doesn't seem to know if Willie is his paternal or maternal grandfather..listed on both sides
Father is given as Extra TAYLOR 1915 -1978
Mother Pearline
Grandmother Beatrice DANIELS
I don't know where that surname came from maybe she had a second marriage


But gradually getting snippets of information that tend to prove or disprove relationships
I think Priscilla could have been a great aunt
She had a JOHNSON husband ..how likely is it that she was born a Johnson too ?

Unusual first names are helpful
I need some time to add this new information to the Johnson-Jane tree

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Re: William + Pearline Lightbourne
« Reply #35 on: Monday 10 April 23 19:03 BST (UK) »
Ohio have pm ed you
And amended previous
I.ll start a post about the white William LIGHTBOURNEs
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