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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 April 23 09:48 BST (UK) »
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This may be an earlier generation, as Christian names often run in families, and Tewkesbury is only about 6 miles from Barrow and the River Severn and the River Avon meet, the Severn flowing down from Wales and the Avon on its way from Stratford.

From the Forest of Dean website

Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations 1637-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730 - 1823


15 December 1768

Joseph GILES - Batchelor
occupation: Framework Knitter
residence: Tewkesbury

Sarah JONES - Spinster
residence: Tewkesbury

Marriage by Bonds
He signs
Witness 1: Thomas GILES a Framework Knitter of Tewkesbury

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The Licence gives more information

Joseph GILES is aged 24
Sarah JONES is 23

To Marry at Tewkesbury, sworn before H JONES

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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 April 23 15:37 BST (UK) »
I don't seem to be able to find the censuses you included snips of, what are the census references please? Also, who did he marry, and where, extra information could be helpful to find him earlier.  :D

1861 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7T3-1QW

Other censuses are linked to Joseph's FamilySearch profile:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/G3Q8-L98

Marriage certificate gives his father's occupation as 'deceased', unfortunately.

Queenie  :)
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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 April 23 19:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your help so far.

I don't seem to be able to find the censuses you included snips of, what are the census references please? Also, who did he marry, and where, extra information could be helpful to find him earlier.  :D

1861 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7T3-1QW

Other censuses are linked to Joseph's FamilySearch profile:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/G3Q8-L98

Marriage certificate gives his father's occupation as 'deceased', unfortunately.

Queenie  :)

Yes the census record QueenoftheWest posted is my Joseph Giles. He married Maria Cox in 1858 in Trevethin, Monmouthshire, eventually moving to Blaenavon in the same county. Maria Cox is from Bristol and it's quite possible Joseph may have lived in Bristol for a period and met her there. And yes the marriage certificate doesn't give the father's occupation, it does just say deceased.

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This may be an earlier generation, as Christian names often run in families, and Tewkesbury is only about 6 miles from Barrow and the River Severn and the River Avon meet, the Severn flowing down from Wales and the Avon on its way from Stratford.

From the Forest of Dean website

Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations 1637-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730 - 1823


15 December 1768

Joseph GILES - Batchelor
occupation: Framework Knitter
residence: Tewkesbury

Sarah JONES - Spinster
residence: Tewkesbury

Marriage by Bonds
He signs
Witness 1: Thomas GILES a Framework Knitter of Tewkesbury

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The Licence gives more information

Joseph GILES is aged 24
Sarah JONES is 23

To Marry at Tewkesbury, sworn before H JONES


Thanks for that Capetown. That's encouraging to see that people with the surname Giles are living in that area, especially with the name Joseph and as you say it could well be ancestors or relations. It's something to look into.

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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 April 23 19:50 BST (UK) »
One thing I did look into was Joseph Giles' (Senior) death to get an idea of his age. I know he died before 1858 when he's listed as deceased on his son Joseph's marriage certificate. There's only two people called Joseph Giles in the civil register who died in Gloucestershire before 1858 - one an infant and another too young to be the father. So either the father died somewhere else or before 1837 when his son must have been a child or teenager. If it's the latter then his son would obviously not be living with his father in the 1841 or 1851 censuses which I can't locate him in.



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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 April 23 19:57 BST (UK) »
In '61 Joseph is in Blaenavon. Could this be him in 1856?
Welsh Newspapers
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3396764/3396766/3"joseph%20giles"

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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 April 23 21:10 BST (UK) »
In '61 Joseph is in Blaenavon. Could this be him in 1856?
Welsh Newspapers
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3396764/3396766/3"joseph%20giles"

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Thanks hanes teulu. I have come across that before, it's something I couldn't rule in or out. He's living in Trevethin at the time which isn't too far away, so it could be, although the occupations don't match. I did consider whether criminality is the reason I couldn't find him in the 1841 or 1851 census.

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Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 16 April 23 07:19 BST (UK) »
Monmouthshire Beacon
Saturday 12 July 1856

Gives Joseph Giles age* and occupation

* it is transcribed as aged 23 - but zooming in Joseph is aged 29 (c1827)

MONMOUTHSHIRE MIDSUMMER SESSIONS

Joseph GILES 29, miner, charged with assaulting W EVANS, at Newport.
Guilty
Fourteen days' hard labour at Usk.


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