How would someone have applied for an Irish (or UK) Pension in 1927?

[robertmsimon]

My great-grandfather, born in County Tyrone, Ireland about 1856, returned to County Tyrone in 1927 from America (and lived there for a few years before dying in County Tyrone). His older brother (born in 1847) had applied for an Irish Pension in 1917, and there is a record of his application and consultation of the 1851 Census.  I strongly suspect that my great-grandfather was also interested in obtaining a pension, and he would have reached the qualifying age of 70 when he returned.  But, by 1927, there was no way to check either the 1841 or 1851 Censuses (as they had been destroyed, and in any case, my great-grandfather wouldn't have been in them).  Obviously, there must have been some process for application for pensions, but what might it have been and where might I look to see if there is a record of an application by my great-grandfather?

[Sinann]

It was known for people to write to the priest/rector for a cert of their baptism to prove year of birth for pensions. I've no idea how you could find out if he got a pension though.

[Maggsie]

They would apply to Dublin.
On request the office would look at the Census and hand write the information.
I have seen quite a lot of these.
Maggsie

[aghadowey]

They would apply to Dublin.
On request the office would look at the Census and hand write the information.
I have seen quite a lot of these.
Maggsie

The query is about applying in 1927 when the 1841 and 1851 census had already been destroyed but the OP's great-grandfather was born after 1851 so that doesn't really matter. As Sinann posted, a baptismal record would have been submitted.
I remember going through a local church register in the 1990s and there were letters tucked in at the revelant pages (for example, in say 1930 a person asking for record of their own baptism (pre-registration) in order to get the pension).

[Dundee]

Even if there was no record of birth or baptism you could submit a statutory declaration the same as you do today.  There would have been plenty of people around at that time who had no proof of birth or baptism.

Debra 

[Maggsie]

I have a few copies of 1851.
I cannot get back into the site just now.
As soon as I can I will send the link.
Maggsie

[aghadowey]

I have a few copies of 1851.
I cannot get back into the site just now.
As soon as I can I will send the link.
Maggsie

1841/1841 census links-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/index.jsp

But, by 1927, there was no way to check either the 1841 or 1851 Censuses (as they had been destroyed, and in any case, my great-grandfather wouldn't have been in them). 

[Maggsie]

Yes that's the link. I still cannot open the site.
Maggsie

[Kiltaglassan]

I still cannot open the site.

Site back up and running. 

https://genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/