Missing daughter

[crisane]

Between 1895 and 1902 there are only two births registered on the GRO index for an Edith Rose Daniels. Both are in 1899 one in the June 1/4 reg dist Poplar mother's maiden name Gammon. The other in the December 1/4, Southwark, nomother's maiden name.
Edith born June 1/4 is with her parents Henry James and Rose Daniels in Bethnal Green.
The baptism record for Edith Rose gives a birth date of September 23 1899

[CaroleW]

We appear to be going over some of the same ground as in last years thread 

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=861178.9

[jonw65]

Lloyd's Illustrated Newspaper, 22 Oct 1899
AN ACTRESS AND HER CHILD. Alice Daniels, 30, an actress, of Fairmead-road, Upper Holloway, was charged on remand, at North London police court, yesterday, with attempting to commit suicide by taking a quantity of lotion on the 11th inst.

Mentions that a month earlier Alice had attempted suicide by throwing herself over London Bridge.

It's on the 11th October 1899 that Alice was admitted to the Islington workhouse Infirmary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1T-JVMZ

So it would be extremely unlikely that her daughter would have been admitted with her then.
Discharged on the 13th to the Police.

[jonw65]

If that newspaper report is accurate - and it's the only one available to me at present - the daughter ought to have been taken to the workhouse either later on the 21st October (a Saturday) or soon afterwards. Or did she go to some kind of receiving home? Or not go at all?
That was the second appearance of Alice at the court on the charge of attempted suicide on the 11th?

[Greaves]

I am still not clear as to how many court appearances there were and when they took place.

Presumably there was an earlier appearance at the Guildhall for the earlier attempt.

Part of the problem is that most of the newspaper reports are essentially rewrites of each other, probably emerging from a central reporter.

Are there actual copies of court proceedings? I mean not newspaper reports but official records.

I am also interested in the name and location of the home for distressed stage folk that Alice and her daughter were sent to.

What happened to the daughter? She doesn’t appear to be with Alice in1901.

[jonw65]

Hi
Yes, Alice was going to an actresses home, or similar. The daughter was going with her, I think the reports say she was 2 then.
The daughter was reunited with Alice after she left the dock for the final time. Not sure of the date, seems to be late October.

There seems to be a conflict in the reports between the earlier ones saying Alice took the mixture on the 11th October and was arrested at the Infirmary by the police on the 13th.
While the later ones say she took the "poison" on the 13th and then told a policeman, who took her to Dr Fagan of St. John's Road, Holloway (was this at the infirmary?) and then saw a chemist of the Seven Sisters Road.
All a bit strange. Or perhaps I have misunderstood.

It's possible perhaps that the daughter might not have been registered as Daniels, if Alice concealed her illegitimacy and told the registrar that she was married, thus naming a father in the normal way.  This did sometimes happen.

I don't see any records for the North London Magistrates Court at the LMA that go back to the 19th century.

[Drosybont]

The 'home for distressed stage folk' might have been the 'Theatrical Mission'.  By the 1890s it had its own building, Macready House, in Henrietta Street, Covent Garden.  From the many newspaper reports about it, it seems that together with non-denominational evangelical christianity it provided a place for women and young people working in theatre to eat and relax between rehearsals and performances, and support for those out of work too.  There was some sleeping accommodation and a small orphanage for children of theatrical parents.

Drosybont

[jonw65]

That sounds promising, Drosybont.

Jessie Daniels Edmonton 1897

Has this Jessie been found at all?

[heywood]

That sounds promising, Drosybont.

Jessie Daniels Edmonton 1897

Has this Jessie been found at all?

There is an Edith Daniels here in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWH9-W9F