Look up request - Bryan Noon / Margaret Jordan marriage

[Rosygem]

Hello,

I'm trying to find a marriage record for my 4GGPs Bryan Noon and Margaret Jordan. They had 2 children born in Ireland between 1845-1851 (Bridget and Mary), so I imagine they married around 1845 or earlier. I can't find a parish register entry for the marriage so wondered if someone else might have better luck than me.

I believe Bryan was born around 1821 going by his age on England Census records from 1861 onwards. But his death certificate says he was 59yo in 1894.
And I believe Margaret was born around 1823, again going by her age on the census records.

Spelling variations from other documentation I have:
- Bryan/Brian/Brun
- Noon/Noone/Newn
- Jordan/Shurdon

Please let me know if I need to provide any further info. Thank you

[CaroleW]

Bryan & Margaret were in Liverpool in 1851 where he is shown as 40 & Margaret 23.  In 1861 they are 46 & 32 respectively

1851 has 3 children b Ireland William 12 Bridget 10  & Thomas 6 so I think this was a second marriage for Thomas given Margaret's age

What documentation do you have showing Margaret's maiden name as Jordan?

[CaroleW]

1861 has a 9yr old son Patrick.  Freebmd has a Patrick Noon b 1852 Liverpool & GRO online has mothers maiden name as Jennings

[heywood]

I think that maybe the wrong family, Carole.

I was thinking the family are in Warrington in 1861.
Bryne Noon 40 yrs
Margaret 38 yrs
With children Bridget, Mary, Sarah and John.

[CaroleW]

In 1871 they are in Warrington.  Bryan is 50 & Margaret is 60!!  11yr old son James is shown as b Warrington but 1861 for Liverpool shows birth Liverpool.

There is a James Noon birth in Warrington 1860 - mmn Biggins

In 1881 - still in Warrington - Bryan is 60 & Margaret 58 ??

In 1891 - Bryan is 64 & Margaret 66.  Bryan dies in 1894 aged 58😱

[Rosygem]

Yes the family I’m referring to settled in Warrington after moving over from Ireland. There is another family in Liverpool with the same names.

I have birth certificates/baptism records for their children to show that Margaret’s maiden name was Jordan.

I also have marriage certificates for some of their children and names, addresses, occupations all match up along the branch so I’m confident I have the correct family for my tree.

I have birth and death certificates for Bryan Noon, but can’t find a marriage record for him and Margaret.

[heywood]

Do any of the Irish born children show their place of birth (other than Ireland) in later censuses?

[CaroleW]

Oh botheration - 2 x Bryan Noon's b Ireland with wives called Margaret.  Sorry for confusion 😱😱

I see daughter Sarah's birth reg shows mmn Shurdon & John's is Jordan

[heywood]

I have birth and death certificates for Bryan Noon, but can’t find a marriage record for him and Margaret.

You won’t have a birth certificate for Bryan as he was born before civil registration began - is it a baptism record? If so, where is that and how do you know it is him please?