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Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« on: Sunday 23 April 23 01:11 BST (UK) »
Hello.   My name is Colleen Kerr, Victoria, B.C., Canada.   I am trying to find information on my grandmother and my G. Grandmother.   They both immigrated to Canada in and around 1920 from England.  My G. Grandmother's name was Nina Naomi King (nee Cooper with a father named Frederick Cooper) and believed to be born in Surrey England around 1878.  Her daughter, (my grandmother) Rachel King was born sometime between 1905-1915.  All I know is Nina's husband, Henry King died of pneumonia after herding sheep during a cold and rainy time.  She later took my grandmother to Canada where she remarried a man named John McLean (probably an arranged marriage).  The closest information I have found is a 1901 Census from Wandsworth, England which details a household of H. King, N. King and 3 children, the youngest being R. King.   If this is them then my Grandmother Rachel was older than we thought but, of course, she never did have a birth Certificate.  My grandmother always said her mom use to pass her off as younger in order to access things that were free for a child.  My grandmother always thought she was an only child but, possibly, she had 2 older siblings and my G. Grandmother couldn't raise them as a widow.   I'm sure times would have been tough then.   I just don't know where else to look?   Thank-you to anyone who could assist me.   Colleen  Kerr

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 April 23 03:03 BST (UK) »
Free search of 1921 census on Findmypast living at Seaborough, Beaminster, Dorset

Nina Naomi KING, born 1879, Camberwell, London
Rachel KING, born 1912, Clapham, Surrey

Possible Birth

KING, RACHEL
No mother's maiden surname
GRO Reference: 1912  J Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 1061

This child was illegitimate.

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 April 23 03:13 BST (UK) »
Naomi and Rachel KING aged 44 and 16 departed Belfast, Ireland on the ship Montcalm on 26 May 1928 bound for Quebec and Montreal.  Their address in Ireland was 'Benvue',  Windsor Park, Belfast.

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 April 23 03:18 BST (UK) »
Nina Naomi KING was baptised 24 Nov 1912 (born 9 Oct 1877) at St Barnabas, Acton Vale, Ealing, parents Frederick (bootmaker) and Naomi. Her address at the time was 5 [or 8?] Acacia Rd, Acton.


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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 April 23 03:36 BST (UK) »
I think this might be Naomi and father Frederick in 1891 at Southsea Rd, Croydon

Frederick KING   56  (wid)  boot repairer  Colchester, Essex
Naomi                   14                                     Kent, Forest Hill
RG12/588/169

Modified to add:
This looks like Naomi's birth registration -
Dec qtr 1876  Lewisham (1d/1013) mmn COOPER

By 1901 Frederick has remarried. In 1901 at Croydon:
Frederick KING  65  bootmaker   Calvenden [Kelvendon], Essex
Mary                    36                         Sutton, Surrey
Alex HOOD (brother)  14 
Philip                              11
Naomi KING                  24  children's maid   Forest Hill, Kent
RG13/640/21 pg 34

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 April 23 03:44 BST (UK) »
In 1871 at Croydon:

Frederick KING  35  bootmaker  Colchester, Essex
Naomi                  34                        Lingfield, Surrey
William                14                         Lingfield
RG10/846/75 pg18

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 April 23 04:12 BST (UK) »
Frederick KING and Naomi COOPER on the same page for marriages Dec qtr 1868 Reigate (Surrey) 2a/275.

Naomi COOPER baptised 19 Jun 1837, born 18 Nov 1836, non conformist at Lingfield. Parents David COOPER (labourer) and Harriet (nee AGATES).

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 April 23 04:21 BST (UK) »
I think this might be Naomi and father Frederick in 1891 at Southsea Rd, Croydon

Frederick KING   56  (wid)  boot repairer  Colchester, Essex
Naomi                   14                                     Kent, Forest Hill
RG12/588/169


They are still in Croydon in 1901 and Frederick has remarried.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9XG-F9Q

Probably this marriage:

Marriages Jun 1901

KING    Frederick        
WOOD    Mary Ethel   
Croydon    2a   633

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Re: Nina Naomi King (Nee Cooper) born 1878 Surrey, England
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 April 23 04:43 BST (UK) »
All I know is Nina's husband, Henry King died of pneumonia after herding sheep during a cold and rainy time. 

...... where she remarried a man named John McLean (probably an arranged marriage). 

I think Henry KING was a figment of her imagination.  Why would you think it was an arranged marriage?  She was 52 in 1928.  How old was John McLEAN, was he much younger than her?

Debra  :)