Rachel Robinson (nee Dodgson)

[who_am_i?]

Rachel Dodgson, bapt 25 Nov 1825, St Peters Liverpool, parents Issac and Lucy (nee Brown).
Marries John Robinson 5 Jun 1853 St James Liverpool. John dies 4 Aug 1855 Everton.
Two children:
Annie Robinson b 23 Jun 1854, d 9 Aug 1854
John Bradford Robinson b 6 Aug 1855 (2 days after father's death).

Seeking information on Rachel post her husband's death
(I can't find her or John Bradford in 1861 Census; John Bradford is in 1871 Census living with grandparents).
Thanks

[CaroleW]

Just to save anybody looking - she is not the 1856 marriage to William Little.  That Rachel was a spinster father William Robinson

I wondered whether she may have had a breakdown given the 2 deaths & the birth so close together.  If she was in a mental institution she may only be shown under her initials

[osprey]

on his admission to the Blue Coat School, Wavertree in 1864, John is noted as orphan, kept by his grandfather. Residence looks like 8 Bk Roscommon Street.

[who_am_i?]

Thanks Carole and Osprey.

Carole, how did you know the William Little marriage was not Rachel so quickly? (I forgot to mention I had a certificate confirming it was the wrong father to be Rachel). I wondered about an asylum too because of the circumstances, but assumed if she then died there would still be a death certificate? DO you know of an asylums in the area and whether there are records available?

Osprey, where did you find the school admission details? Do you know if there are records for orphans?

[who_am_i?]

Osprey, that address is correct for John's grandfather at that time.
Great find

[osprey]

the school admission is on Findmypast. There are 2 different entries and one has a column which appears to be occupation of mother and in that, for JBR, it says dead.

Were Rachel's parents dead by the 1861 census? John isn't with his Robinson grandparents on that census.

[CaroleW]

The 1856 marriage cert is on Ancestry which is how I found her father etc

[osprey]

answering my own question

Possible death regs for parents

Lucy Dodgson 67 sept qtr 1853 West Derby vol 8b pg 249

Isaac Dodgson 64 sept qtr 1854 West Derby vol 8b pg 410

children baptised to Isaac & Lucy
Mary 1811
Thomas 1814
Isaac 1815
James 1816
Charles 1818
Stephen 1820
Ann 1821
John 1824
William 1827

Charles married Emma Robinson 16 Nov 1848. 1861 census, Emma is widowed.
Stephen married Mary Ann Hart 27 July 1848. Haven't found them after 1851 as yet. 

[garstonite]

you probably have this -
Baptism: 5 Sep 1855 St Bride, Toxteth, Lancashire, England
John Bradford Robinson - Son of John Robinson & Rachel
    Born: 6 Aug 1855
    Abode: Hanover Square Prince Edwin Street
    Occupation: Bookbinder
    Baptised by: W. M. Falloon Minister
...................
Baptism: 25 Nov 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Rachael Dodgson - [Child] of Isaac Dodgson & Lucy
    Abode: Nash St.
    Occupation: Labourer
    Baptised by: T. Kidd Curate
........................................
do you think Georgina Bradford Robinson may be related ?

Marriage: 9 Dec 1901 St Bridget, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Walter Henry Lewis - 33, Insurance Manager, Bachelor, 23 Huntly Rd Fairfield Liverpool
Georgina Bradford Robinson - 27, Spinster, 135 Salisbury Rd Wavertree
    Groom's Father: James Henry Lewis, Professor of Music
    Bride's Father: Francis Robinson, Deceased, General Broker
    Witness: John Maxwell McMasters; Florence Mary Anne Lewis