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1861 & 71 census West family
« on: Wednesday 26 April 23 08:33 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm trying to find on 1861 & 71 census Caroline West nee Phillips born 1831 St Luke's Chelsea she marries Edward West in 1851 they have 4 children Edward 1851, Kezia 1853, Henry 1855 & Caroline 1857. Edward West dies 1856. I can find Caroline in 1891 census living with her daughter Caroline but need to find where she was in 61 & 71
Any help would be much appreciated
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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 10:33 BST (UK) »
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 14:51 BST (UK) »
What about the children on following census and marriages.

There is a family tree on Ancestry

Kezia living as a domestic servant on 1871

Kezia Elizabeth West, father Edward Dec
married
George Spencer Markwick
1872 St John Waterloo.

Poss second marriage for kezia 1896


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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for replies  Yes Kezia married George Spenser Markwick then John Henderson. in 1896.What I am trying to find is what happened to her mother in 1861 & 71 and where were the children. I have Kezia i 1871 as domestic servant
Caroline West nee phillips I have a gap in census 1861-71-81 like I said in previous  post. I would like to think the children were with her but unable to establish this.
Edward Henry West born 1851 baptism address 16 Bulls Gardens, Chelsea  I have found what I think is him St Mary's Newington it says he's a clerk Orphan, Kezia Elizabeth born Feb 1853 18 Green St Chelsea (she is my Gt Grandmother) only census I have'nt got for her is 1861.
Henry George West 1855 lived at 3 Wood Street Chelsea I have no census records for him but waiting on a marriage certificate to confirm it's the right Henry West. Caroline Emma West b 1857 abode 18 Bulls Gardens Chelsea she marries Frederick Hollicks and has her mother Caroline West staying with them in 1891 census .
The children's father Edward West died 21 Sept 1856 at 3 Henry Street Chelsea.

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Bedfordshire; Cardington, Trueman, Wilstead  Bridges, Clark(e), Redman
Essex; Eady, Newman, Copsey, Rawlin, Gilders, Smith  
Rotherhithe; Henderson, Eady. Lambert
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Suffolk  (Wissington) Eady.
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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 16:22 BST (UK) »
Possible 1871 for dau Caroline West 14 born Chelsea 1857 as a servant in Chelsea with the

George Dibben family

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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 16:44 BST (UK) »
I was looking forward to see if  Caroline was living with one of her children. Perhaps she took on someone else's name

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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 20:32 BST (UK) »
The children's father Edward West died 21 Sept 1856 at 3 Henry Street Chelsea.

If you have ancestry, Chelsea relief book, north division
End of September quarter / beginning December quarter 1856
Caroline West received 3 shillings and 3 bread loaves
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_A109711-00048

I thought there were dittoes, but probably they are not from the totals!

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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 20:51 BST (UK) »
Who are these at 17 Bulls Gardens, Chelsea, in 1871? :-\
Piece 88 folio 60 page 114
Caroline West Head Widow 60
Edwd West Son 35 Plasterer
Elizth West Daur 30 Servant
Henry West Son 27 Labourer

All born Chelsea.
They look rather like the missing West family, but those ages are all twenty years out!

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Re: 1861 & 71 census West family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 April 23 21:01 BST (UK) »
Some of the 1861 is missing

Bulls Gardens is missing from Chelsea, according to the Historical Streets Project
Bulls Gardens   
Nearby street - Green Street   
Remarks - MISSING from ED 4
Reference - RG 9/36

https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/+/http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Chelsea_Registration_District,_1861_Census_Street_Index_A-B