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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 April 23 10:04 BST (UK) »
Hi she’s the only Ann Orchardson I can find who could possibly have given birth to a son in 1834.
That may well be be, but something like a quarter to a third of early 19th century baptism records are missing for one reason or another, so it is never safe to make the assumption that the only possible one in the surviving records is the correct one.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 April 23 10:07 BST (UK) »
See reply #6
ANN  ORCHISTON's death certificate   in 1887 Forfar   
should give you information about her parents.

I think you will find that her parents are Alexander ORCHARDSON and Agnes NEAL / NEIL.
They were in Kirriemuir.
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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 April 23 12:22 BST (UK) »
Out of curiosity I searched SP for all mentions of Or*c*n* and found over 60 spelling variants.

There are two recorded baptisms of children to Alex* Or*c*n* and Agnes Ne*l*
James, 1801, Kirriemuir
John, 1810, Kirriemuir

There are two deaths of Or*c*n* with mother's maiden name Ne*l*
Helen, 91, 1897, Glamis, other surname Crabb
Ann, 87, 1887, Forfar, other surname Grant
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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 April 23 17:02 BST (UK) »
Out of curiosity I searched SP for all mentions of Or*c*n* and found over 60 spelling variants.

There are two recorded baptisms of children to Alex* Or*c*n* and Agnes Ne*l*
James, 1801, Kirriemuir
John, 1810, Kirriemuir

There are two deaths of Or*c*n* with mother's maiden name Ne*l*
Helen, 91, 1897, Glamis, other surname Crabb
Ann, 87, 1887, Forfar, other surname Grant

The variations for name are amazing. Makes me realise there’s no advantage to having something unusual!  :)
Angus.(paternal)  Ferrier, Sutherland, Donaldson, 
(Maternal)  Mitchell, Robbie, Duncan, Suttie, Orchardson or Orchardton, Dempster, Downie Guild, Gibb, Storrier, Murdoch

Aberdeenshire Park, Lawson, Snowie, Bodie, Booth, Kesson, Ewan


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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 April 23 17:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone

I’ll be busy checking all this out.

The information from the Kirk session was interesting. I wonder what ‘suitable admonishment’ consisted of!
Angus.(paternal)  Ferrier, Sutherland, Donaldson, 
(Maternal)  Mitchell, Robbie, Duncan, Suttie, Orchardson or Orchardton, Dempster, Downie Guild, Gibb, Storrier, Murdoch

Aberdeenshire Park, Lawson, Snowie, Bodie, Booth, Kesson, Ewan

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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #14 on: Friday 28 April 23 22:40 BST (UK) »
There are two recorded baptisms of children to Alex* Or*c*n* and Agnes Ne*l*
James, 1801, Kirriemuir
John, 1810, Kirriemuir

There are two deaths of Or*c*n* with mother's maiden name Ne*l*
Helen, 91, 1897, Glamis, other surname Crabb
Ann, 87, 1887, Forfar, other surname Grant

Yes, that is the family I was looking at. There do appear to be gaps in the records.

I think that Agnes NEIL must have died  around 1810-1812.
It looks as if Alexander ORCHARDSON had another marriage to Ann HENDRY about 1813, with the following children:
•   Jean 16 Jan 1814 – Kirriemuir. Abode “MuirHouse”
•   Margaret 13 May 1821 – Kirriemuir
•   Unnamed 1824 – Kirriemuir
•   Peter 15 Jan 1828 - Ruthven

In the 1841 census, I can’t see Alexander or Ann Orchardson
Peter Orchardson is 12, Ag labourer in Cortachy and Clova
Jean Orchardson is 25, a hand loom weaver in Forfar

But here is the family in 1851:
1851 census Forfar – 8 Watts Square
Alexander Orchardson, Head, married, 88, receiving parochial support, born Kirriemuir
Ann Orchardson, wife, married, 68, Winder Linen yarn, born Tannadice
Jean Orchardson, daughter, unmarried, 36, hand loom weaver linen, born Kirriemuir
Peter Orchardson, son married, 22, hand loom weaver linen, born Kirriemuir
U—? Bremnar grandchild, 13, hand loom weaver linen, born Forfar
David Meldrum grandchild, 6, scholar, born Forfar


I didn’t find a death certificate for Alexander, so he probably died before 1855.
So that puts Alexander’s birth around 1763. I can’t see a baptism record for him, but there are a few Orchardson baptisms in Kirriemuir around the relevant time to a father named Alexander.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 April 23 18:08 BST (UK) »
we read that Ann Orchison stated she was with child to Alexander Mitchell residing at Dameye in Kirriemuir.

thanks

Does anyone know what the circled words say?

TIA
Angus.(paternal)  Ferrier, Sutherland, Donaldson, 
(Maternal)  Mitchell, Robbie, Duncan, Suttie, Orchardson or Orchardton, Dempster, Downie Guild, Gibb, Storrier, Murdoch

Aberdeenshire Park, Lawson, Snowie, Bodie, Booth, Kesson, Ewan

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Re: Looking for Orchardson (sometimes transcribed as Orchardton)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 April 23 19:41 BST (UK) »
“Pro tempore”
Latin - for the time being.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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