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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 April 23 15:53 BST (UK) »
You will struggle to fnd death records before 1855.

There are no records of deaths or burials before 1855 in any of those three parishes.

I looked at the Monumental Inscriptions indexes at https://www.anesfhs.org.uk/databanks/memorial-inscriptions/miindex but there are no likely-looking ones in either Glenmuick or Tullich, and Glengairn has apparently not yet been done.

And the kirk session records of Glenmuick Tullich and Glengairn do not seem to have survived.

Unless the rental records of the estate where they lived have survived, I can't think of any other source that might tell you where they lived. The Old Statistical Account (OSA) lists seven heritors, i.e. landowners, in the united parishes, and some of the records of their estates may have survived. See screenshot below.

If so, they will be listed in one of the catalogues here https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/catalogues-and-indexes - it will be a case of working through the estate names to see if there is a rental roll from 1800-1820 anywhere. It could be a longish job!

The modern spellings of some of the estates mentioned are different from the spellings in the OSA.
Monaltree is now usually Monaltrie; Gairns*le is probably Gairnshiel, and Achalatar could be Achallater or Auchallater.
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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 April 23 16:28 BST (UK) »
Helen Gray baptism record

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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 April 23 17:06 BST (UK) »
The modern day C of S church in Ballater is Glenmuick church.

The old parish church of Glen Gairn was restored at some stage and although I do not know if it still operates, in the 1970s and early 80s at least it was operating throughout the summer months. If I remember correctly the minister from Ballater came and ran the services on a Sunday afternoon. My family had a cottage in Glen Girnoc near Ballater and we used to go there most Sundays. The three main things I remember were being proudly shown the visitor book signed by both the Queen and Queen Mum, a harvest thanksgiving service where the church was so full I and the other children had to sit on the steps below the pulpit, and most memorable of all, the pan drops you were given as you went in, to suck on during the sermon.

Judging by the map earlier in the thread I suspect the restored church was near but not in exactly the same place as the ruins shown.
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 April 23 17:16 BST (UK) »
Helen's baptism record appears to say John Gray and Christian Farquarson, Balno - which seems likely to be this place:

https://canmore.org.uk/site/154833/balno

Ruth
McArthur, Milne, Mitchell, Black, Robertson, Morrison, Slessor, Lawrence - Aberdeenshire/Banffshire. Muir, Waddell, Fraser, Orr, Cowden - Lanarkshire/Renfrewshire/Dunbartonshire. Dalziel, Dalzell, Gourley, Cromie, Crombie, Bell - Co Down. Lewis, Corrigan, Morris, Cox, Hay - Monmouthshire/Pembrokeshire.  Baker, Ginger, Woodhurst, Swift, Jones - Kent/London.


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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 April 23 17:29 BST (UK) »
Here's Balno on the first edition Ordnance Survey map
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.6&lat=57.08887&lon=-3.12347&layers=5&b=1

and a photograph of the steading https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/442648.

Just a couple of hundred yards west of Balno are the ruins of what is probably the Roman Catholic chapel referred to in the OSA.

The existing Glen Gairn kirk is a bit further up the glen - see https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2901 and https://canmore.org.uk/site/97150/glengairn-parish-church
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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 April 23 17:49 BST (UK) »
Oh wow thank you so much to all of you! It is Balno, i have checked on all of the children's baptism records and they all say Balno.  Thank you so much, you are all amazing! I will go and have a read through all of the links that you have sent. Thank you again :)

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 April 23 19:26 BST (UK) »
I have just found what i think might be a record of Christian Farquharson's birth in 1779, in the Parish of Strathdon and Corgarff.  It is the second one up from the bottom. Can anyone decipher what it says after William Farqurharson.  There seems to be 2 dots so I presume is the same as the line above - looks a bit like Eding Cafrie? Does anyone know where this is? thank you

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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 April 23 20:00 BST (UK) »
There is an Edinglassie to the north of Lonach Hill and Torrandubh Wood. Just a little to the East of Edinglassie is a Finnylost (which seems to match the "Finilost" also shown in the register. It looks to me as though Edinglassie would actually be in Tarland and Migvie, but it may have been easier to register in Strathdon and Corgarff.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.7&lat=57.19477&lon=-3.10826&layers=5&b=1
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Which exact church in parish
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 29 April 23 20:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help. It is also not far from Balno where Christian had her children. It looks like it might be the right Christian Farquharson that was born in Edinglassie then. Thanks again