Clarice Irene Green married John Smith 1929

[Special Needs Girl]

Thanks John, I’ll check that now.
SNG

[Special Needs Girl]

Just checked and the transcriber has it as December. Mind you the original is hard to read.

Wondering why she wouldn’t be with hubby though at that time because I wouldn’t have thought someone born in 1903 would have signed up yet.

Is there anywhere that would give details about the John Alfred & Sons coal company?
List of employees.
Where it actually is?

Can I ask how big an area is the registry area of Bury

Does Withington come under the same area?  She married in Withington St Paul, Lancashire so I’m presuming she must have lived in that area somewhere.

Thanks
Pam

[Special Needs Girl]

I’ve found the electoral register for 1939 and Clarice and John are living at 1110, Chester Road, Stretford.

It seems that only the 1939 electoral register is available on ancestry.

Do you know if there is anywhere else which has these registers?

Thanks

[mckha489]

It’s John Aldred, Coal merchant. Not John Alfred.

First mention I can see in papers is 1888. - an occasional worker took his horse to the vet as requested, then walked it to Miles Platting where he tried to sell it fo £15 and ended up selling it for 25 shillings.


57a Ordsall Lane, Salford in the 1920s

If you search by employer “John Aldred” in 1921 you can get quite a list of workers

Added, John Aldred on a Jury Salford Assizes in 1880 (coal merchant Litte Hulton)

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Maybe she'd been evacuated - they did move both mothers and pregnant women

The John Smith in Stretford b 16 June 1903 must be yours as his occupation relates to the coal merchants

[Special Needs Girl]

I have also found Clarice and John living at 78 Trafford Grove, Stretford in 1931.

Sadly I have no idea of where places in Lancashire are.

Where is the register office for Stretford please.

Thanks for pointing out the name of the coal merchant mckha489.

I love the story about the horse!!

Thanks
Pam

[mckha489]

Stretford  is in Barton upon Irwell reg.  (Found by picking through free BMD)

Just two Smith/Greens 1930 & 1932

[Special Needs Girl]

Thanks mckha489

I think I have just found a possible death for John Smith too after using the dob 16 June 1903 that Mabel and John found.
Q3, 1982.

 I’ll go and check those births now Makha…. Thanks

[heatherjulie]

Smith Children whose mother's maiden name was Green

from www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

1929 I (female)  registered Didsbury
1930 G I (female) registered Manchester **

1937 H A (male) registered Withington Hospital*
1939 C R (male) registered Manchester South*
added * these 2 children are with their mother Mary in 1939 and so not 'yours'

** possible marriage for this one in 1950 Manchester Register Office or Registrar attended.