1920s births Dundee

[beckymears]

Hello

Can anyone suggest how to find two female ancestors born in Dundee in the 1920s, after 1923?  I know the names of their parents and have checked the death certificates of both, but in neither case are the informants their daughters.  They are not with their parents in the 1921 census (not born yet), but an obituary for their father, d 1951, mentions these daughters as surviving him without giving their names (or whether their maiden names had changed because they married).  The obit mentions that one of them was in the WRAC, in Dundee.  There were also three sons.  I've found the parents in electoral registers in 1937 and 1938 on FindMyPast.  Two of the sons are with them but no daughters.

It's a fairly common name - Gallacher - and if I was to order all the possible birth certificates from ScotlandsPeople (hard copies because after 1923, but no mother's maiden on any of the options there), it would cost an absolute fortune.  Any ideas how to tackle this?
Thanks.

[CaroleW]

Welcome to Rootschat

The daughters would not show on ER's until they were over 21.  They could be on the Scottish 1939 register if they are now deceased but it's not available online via any of the subscription sites

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/nhs-central-register/about-the-register/1939-national-identity-register-and-how-to-order-an-official-extract

You could order the parents entry

[beckymears]

Thank you - but I don't have their first names to search them in 1939

[Forfarian]

What was Mr Gallacher's given name, and what was his wife's full name?

One way you could try is to search the deaths records using her name in the mother's maiden name field.

[beckymears]

Thank you, and at the risk of sounding like a smartypants - I've tried that for deaths as well as births.  I found two daughters who died before age 2, and another daughter I already knew about.  The other two I didn't find.  Father's name is John James Gallacher and mother is Charlotte Nay.

[Kathmferrier]

Is there anywhere in Dundee you can go to look at physical copies of the Courier? The digital version seems to have lots of gaps.

Did papers in WW2 mention anything about local residents going off to the war?

Would any of the sites which have forces records through up any hints?

[beckymears]

Thanks for your reply!  I was lucky with the obit being in the Courier on FindMyPast as it had a lot of info in it - it said John James had three sons and that they all served, but even though I know their first names I can't find them on Ancestry or Findmypast. Their records might be on other sites but the specialist ones all seem to be subscription.

I'm in East Anglia I'm afraid - too far for Dundee of the Scottish People records in Edinburgh.

[MonicaL]

Welcome to RootsChat 

Again, to do with names. What were the maternal and paternal grandmothers called? If parents used Scottish naming pattern, these names may have been given to their daughters.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Just adding some names to see if helps with the searches.

Looking at the obit in the Dundee Courier 31 July 1951.

Sgt-Major John James Gallacher, 60. Lived at 3 Tullideph Street, Dundee.

It mentions as you said that he leaves behind 3 sons and 3 daughters. You are looking for the names of two of the daughters. You have the name of one of them already?

There is a marriage in 1914 in Lochee between a John James Gallacher and a Charlotte Nay. Is this the correct marriage?

Monica