Culverhouse 'home children'

[eileenwilson]

They were visited at least once a year up until 1919 but no further info.  OP should try and obtain the original records from Barnardo's. I looked at all the possible Ruperts in the 1921 Canadian Census and did not see them.  They had travelled with a Charles Catt to Canada, and he returned to the UK, so it possible that the boys also returned to England.  The 1931 census will be released on June 1st so they may show up there as well.

[AlgarvePete]

Thanks to all for trying, my first thought was that they were adopted and used a different surname so will be vary hard to trace but the Hancock link looks promising for Henry and I will follow that up.
Such a sad story and a terrible childhood they must have endured.
Edward John Culverhouse 1871-1915 married Sarah Edith Young 1873-1920 qtr ending Sep 1894 Pancras 1b 321. They had 1 daughter and 6 sons which Edward was incapable of supporting and between 1901 and 1912 were regular visitors to the workhouse which Edward himself managed to stay clear of by lodging with his married sister and in 1911 is living with one of his sons Edward James and has entered widower on census form when in fact Sarah and 4 sons are in the workhouse entered as homeless.
As time goes by the children are separated from the mother and each other and the last entry for Ashford school (run by Pancras workhouse) has Henry and Rupert selected for emigration whilst their brother Albert Edward 1899 (again birth not registered) was put up for adoption and untraceable. Thanks again for the help I will keep trying. Pete

[polarbear]

Please note that back in reply #7 the Hancock name has been noted to be related to the Cole child and not Henry. Henry was apparently discharged to the seaside for emigration and the Cole child to a Margaret Hancock. There doesn’t appear to be a Hancock connection here?

PB

[jorose]

How about Rupert Victor Warren, registered Fulham July quarter 1904, mother's maiden name Young, and matching brother Henry George Warren in 1902?

There is also an Albert Edward Warren mmn Young registration but not until 1901.

I can see a 16 year old Rupert Warren on the 1921 canadian census, he is marked born "Scotland" but he's in the household of a Scottish farmer so could be a mistake?

[jorose]

They might have at some point lived in St. Pancras but they seem to mostly be found in Fulham
Culverhouse boys in Fulham BoG records:

1909, Henniker House, mother "widow"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-593M-S?i=494&cat=1134931

1910, Henniker again, deserted by mother. Rupert to infirmary, the other two to school
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-59SM-K?i=496&cat=1134931

1910, Rupert alone, mother "in prison"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-59Q4-2?i=501&cat=1134931

1910, Albert in West London District School (Ashford), other two boys are on the page over.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-514V?i=551&cat=1134931
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-59MK-T?i=552&cat=1134931

Index for the 1911 onwards records:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-593B-Q?i=739&cat=1134931

Albert and George into the recieving home in 1912:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-5118?i=835&cat=1134931
then all three boys:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NR-59WZ-M?i=838&cat=1134931
and again:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-599V-W?i=842&cat=1134931
Finally into WLDS in 1912, the two younger boys to emigration
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NR-59ML-6?i=926&cat=1134931

[polarbear]

This appears to be the Warren family in Fulham in the 1911 census…

Sarah Edith Warren 35 married
Albert Edward Warren 11 b. Fulham
Henry George Warren 10 b. Fulham
Rupert ?ictor Warren 7 b. Fulham (indexed as Rector)
Percy Cecil Warren 4 b. Fulham

PB

Added: it looks like Percy can also be found in the workhouse records as Culverhouse, mother Sarah Edith.

[Dundee]

Good find Jorose 

Just as an aside, Sarah Edith was born in Brisbane, Queensland.  Her parents John and Caroline arrived in Feb 1873 on the John Rennie

Birth registration:
   
Sarah Edith YOUNG
Birth date: 11/10/1873
Mother's name: Caroline GOODMAN
Father/parent's name: John YOUNG
Registration details:  1873/B/16369

Birth registration:

Nelly YOUNG
Birth date: 17/02/1876
Mother's name: Caroline Elizabeth GOODMAN
Father/parent's name: John YOUNG
Registration details: 1876/C/77

https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/

They were back in England by 25 June 1877 when Sarah and Nelly were baptised.

The 'B' in Sarah's registration is for the Brisbane area,  The 'C' in Nelly's is for a country area - she was born in Bowen.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWL9-XBV

Debra 

[rosie17]

Yes well done Jorose can see them all in the 1911 census as posted

Rosie

[AlgarvePete]

Okay now I am confused because Sarah Edith and 4 sons also appear in Pancras workhouse 13 Aug 1912 all surname Culverhouse. So why is she using Warren? Having said that all four boys have 'illeg' attached to them. Thanks for the Brisbane update, I had Sarah's parents And Christening but had not seen the Australia connection. Thanks again.