Edmond/Edmund Lewis, bapt.1743, Marshfield St Mary, please

[JeffH1959]

Hello,

Very recent joiner here, only recently embarked on this search, blundering around enthusiastically rather than methodically, and would be very grateful for any info/signposting/help.

I'm confident of my tracing back to Edmond/Edmund Lewis as above, but am struggling to establish:

- DoD: I have both 1782 and 25 April 1806
- father: candidate is Edmond/Edmund Lewis 1686-1759
- mother: candidate is Sarah Lawrence 1698-1746

I should add that my only source for the info above is someone else's tree on FindMyPast.

I should also add that my Lewises rather unhelpfully ended up relocating to Whitchurch,  Glamorganshire, almost the very epicentre of the Lewises of The Van... so I wasted a lot of time chasing that particular rabbit.

I'd appreciate any help.

[QueenoftheWest]

Hi Jeff,

Welcome to RootsChat!

I personally would not rely on family trees made by other users, especially when researching this far back. Instead, it is best to utilise primary sources, i.e. parish registers containing details of birth, marriage and death, wills etc. If you can look at an image of these, rather than a transcription, that is even better!

In terms of your Edmond, could you please provide more details on his life. For example:

- Whom did he marry and where? Who were the witnesses?
- Where were his children baptised and what were their names (for naming patterns)?
- Where is the last place you can find him in primary sources? I imagine this is probably the final baptism of his child.

Queenie 

[JeffH1959]

Hello Queenie,

Thanks very much for your welcome, and also for your advice and very helpful questions.

This is just a very quick acknowledgement for now; I'll come back with the requested information over the next few days.

Best wishes,

Jeff

PS I see you have a Berkshire "1-d" Fidler in your tree; I'm in Berkshire, and it's an unusual spelling...it's possible we have a 1939 Register address-based connection. Was one of your 1939 Berkshire Fidlers a Police Inspector by any chance?

[trish1120]

And a welcome from me also Jeff.

And I totally agree with Queenie re not going with others Trees with out primary sources.

Having said that!

St Mary, Marshfield

EDMOND Lewis bapt 04 May 1743, Father EDMOND

EDMUND Lewis, Widower, married Ann NICHOLAS, Widow, 20 Feb 1771, St Woolos, Newport

+ 1st Marriage appears to be;
EDMUND Lewis of St Woolos,  20 May 1760 St Mary, Nash, to Mary JONES of the Parish

Have a look around on FreeREG to try and confirm some of the info you have from Trees

www.freereg.org.uk

Trish

[JeffH1959]

Gasp!

Hello Trish, and thanks very much for your welcome and response too.

This is really helpful information, I'm very grateful to you. It also explains why Mary JONES appears in that other person's Tree. Furthermore, it indicates a clear error in that Tree, about a different surname which has stumped me until now. (Incidentally, you and Queenie may find it reassuring to know that I don't uncritically accept info from other people's Trees until after I've cross-checked it several ways, as best I can, and there's certainly been lots of information which I've elected not to accept. Nonetheless, your advice is much appreciated).

It's also good to see the place/parish names of St Woolos and St Mary, Nash, in your information, as these appear in my Tree as the origins of those Monmouthshire LEWISES (and/or subsequent spouses) who re-settled in Whitchurch, Glamorganshire. Indeed, Edmund1743 was the farmer of Deri Farm, Rhiwbina, Whitchurch, and this passed down to his son Edmund1774 and then grandson Edmund1797. I haven't looked into the title of the land yet, but my working assumption is that they were tenants rather than freeholders, and that the land was probably part of the Tredegar Estate. Similarly, other grandsons (from William1807 onwards) were Innkeepers of the Holly Bush Inn, Whitchurch, which I assume was also part of the Estate.

Incidentally, William1807 became connected with the Holly Bush Inn sometime after his marriage (1831) to Jane JONES, whose father Joseph had been Innkeeper there for some considerable time. It's tempting to hypothesise a connection there with the earlier Mary JONES, but my layperson's understanding is that there was more than one JONES in south Wales at that time...

Best wishes,

Jeff

PS thanks also for the recommendation about FreeREG. I do use that, but I'm not certain that I know how to get the best out of it at this stage. However, I'll continue to blunder on enthusiastically, in the hope that I'll get better as I go along

[trish1120]

As Ann Nicholas was a widow she was nee ?

There are 2 bapts to HENRY/ANN Nicholas St Woolos
John 01 Mar 1764
Henry 17 Apr 1766

Cant see a Marriage on FreeREG for Henry to Ann/e