Ceinwin BEVAN (nee JAMES), born 13/02/1925, Senghenydd died 09/03/2007 St. Athan

[BAC3]

Hello,

I am trying to confirm details of this lady's parents who reputedly were William Alfred JAMES (born 18/05/1876) and Lucy BAKER (born 14/08/1882).   It is not known where the parents were born despite extensive research.  Hopefully someone can help.   If further details are required please let me know and I shall try to obtain them.

This research is on behalf of the granddaughter who lives in Western Australia and together we are researching the BEVAN family of St. Brides Major in the Vale of Glamorgan.

For the moment

BAC3

[osprey]

birth reg
Ceinwen James jan qtr 1925 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 982 mmn Baker

[osprey]

it looks like Lucy was married before

William James dec qtr 1924 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 1220 to Lucy Stoneham

from 1921 free index, Stoneham family in Eglwysilan
Lucy b. 1886 Devon
Henry G b. 1908 Treforest birth reg as Henry George Bacon march qre 1908 mmn Baker
Ernest b. 1909 Treforest birth reg as Ernest bacon dec qtr 1909 mmn Baker
Phyllis b. 1912 Treforest birth reg Phyllis B bacon 1913 mmn Baker
Margaret J b. 1921 Senghenydd   - birth reg march qtr 1921 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 1143 mmn Baker

marriage reg
Lucy Bacon june qtr 1915 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 1221 to Henry Stoneham


1911 census for Lucy & Ernest Bacon
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW6B-DC1

haven't found a marriage for this couple as yet.

 

[osprey]

school admission record in Holcombe Rogus for Lucy Baker born 2 Aug 1882 father Francis Baker address Kyllon(?) Cottage
birth reg Lucy Baker sept qtr 1882 Wellington vol 5c pg 321 mmn Heard

1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WPCS-WPZ

[osprey]

1901 census for Baker family in Senghenydd
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X91B-7FC

[osprey]

Think it might be too much of a coincidence, but on the index to the 1921 census, there's a William James in the same household as the Stonehams. He was born 1875 in Cwmaman, Carmarthenshire.
But I think you'll need the marriage certificate to be sure of his father as William James isn't an uncommon name.

[BAC3]

Good Morning osprey,

Thank you for all your excellent research.   I really am grateful.   Now to piece it together and see where that takes me.   Sadly, as you remark, William JAMES is not an uncommon name

For the moment,

BAC3

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
Can I just give you a warning.
William James the lodger in 1921 says he is born in Cwmaman ,he doesn't say the one in Carmarthanshire ,there is also one in Glamorganshire near Merthyr.
There is a William lodger coal miner from Cwmaman in the Senghenydd area from the Glamorgan one 1901 and 1911.

1881 census Forchann Road? Aberdare
William James 33 coal miner Sandybrick
Margaret 30 Merthyr
John 8 Cwmaman
Willie 4 Cwmaman
Tommy 2 Cwmaman

After that the boys are nephews of Henry Jeremiah born 1843 coal miner and his wife Mary .
Extra child Edward born 1883 .

Just so you have something to compare when you get that marriage certificate.

Ciderdrinker

[heddwch]

GRO  JAMES, WILLIAM  ALFRED     JAMES 
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 728