Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?

[toby_ax]

Hi,

I've hit a brick wall with an individual in my family tree and was wondering if someone would be able to help me get a better idea of her parents.

Mary Ann Wilson, born around 1860 (based on census), dying in 1934.

She married a Wilson Chester on the, 29 Apr 1877, in Shipley, St Paul, Yorkshire, England. Where her father is listed as Edward Wilson.

She may have been in a workhouse, according to the 1871 census and therefore I have no idea of her parents..  I can not find a 1971 census on Mary Ann Wilson, especially without parents names.

In the next 1881 census, she is already married and has children.

The problem I have is, as I don't have an early census, and can't say for sure where in Yorkshire she was born, I therefore can't find a birth record to find her parents.

I believe she was born in the Thirsk, Dalton Area of west yorkshire

I have found a census in 1861, of a Mary Ann Wilson, Edward Wilson, and Lavinia Wilson, living in the Lancashire area, but I can not say for sure, if these are her parents as the birth is Lancashire and not Yorkshire as all census records suggest, I can not say for sure that she was even born in time for this census.

Edward Wilson had no hits for a census, a birth, or even a marriage and so I am stuck.

The reason this is of particular importance to me, is that Mary Ann Wilson's husband, Wilson Chester, has his mother as an Ethel Wilson, and so I just need to go further to see if there (Hopefully not) is a relation between Ethel Wilson, And Mary's Father, Edward Wilson.

The birth index shows a Mary Ann Wilson in Thirsk in 1863, but as an index, does not show mothers maiden name.

Thanks for your time.

[BumbleB]

The 1863 birth registration for Mary Ann Wilson in Thirsk RD shows a mmn of Thompson (GRO website).

[CaroleW]

Birthplaces / Birthyears given on censuses

1881 - Dalton- 1862
1891 Dalton Thirsk - 1862
1901 Thirsk - 1863
1911 Cold Kirkby - 1860

[Jomot]

She may have been in a workhouse, according to the 1871 census and therefore I have no idea of her parents.

Could you give the full census details for this please, as I'm not readily finding it.

[toby_ax]

Thanks all so far.

Could you give the full census details for this please, as I'm not readily finding it.

I've actually just re-looked at this census, and I was incorrect, apologies.

I had mistaken her maiden name for her married name as the census was for a Chester! Sorry

[Jomot]

Birthplaces / Birthyears given on censuses

1881 - Dalton- 1862
1891 Dalton Thirsk - 1862
1901 Thirsk - 1863
1911 Cold Kirkby - 1860

Closest I'm finding in 1871 is this one, at the Dog and Gun Inn, Carlton Miniott, Thirsk RG10/4833/122/8
John Thompson 33 Public House born Borrowby, Yorkshire
Jane 29 wife b Cowesby, Yorks
Mary A Wilson 7 (c1864) niece b Thirsk

This suggests a connection to the birth registration posted earlier:
WILSON, MARY  ANN  mmn THOMPSON  GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in THIRSK  Volume 09D  Page 359

[CaroleW]

You say Mary Ann died 1934.  The Mary Ann Chester who died in 1934 was aged 87 - so not your Mary Ann

Wilson Chester appears to have died 1928 aged 78

[toby_ax]

Oops! Thank you! Yes, Correct, Wilson died 1928

Mary was alive as of the 1911 census

[QueenoftheWest]

This suggests a connection to the birth registration posted earlier:
WILSON, MARY  ANN  mmn THOMPSON  GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in THIRSK  Volume 09D  Page 359

Looks like this Mary Ann was the daughter of James Wilson and Violetta Thompson as there is a baptism for her in Thirsk and marriage between the above-mentioned parents in Easingwold in the same year.

Queenie