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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 May 23 15:49 BST (UK) »
If Mary Ann married 1877 then I doubt she was born in 1863 (making her 14!). Would be very unusual, but not impossible. She put herself as 'full age' on her marriage certificate, but obviously she could have lied about that. Nevertheless, I imagine a birth year of 1860 or earlier is more likely.

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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 May 23 15:52 BST (UK) »
It is also important to keep in mind that she may have been illegitimate and so have made up a father. I have seen this time and time again, and it is often why certain ancestors are hard to trace...

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Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 May 23 15:53 BST (UK) »
On the 1881 Census,

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/3657586?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a22584a33454634546c39655050534f36774e5250704964476a497a6866722f4b71634d357742672f6a7a306b3d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

Mary is listed as 19 at last birthday with a 3 year old, making her 16 at the time of birth, and around 15 at the time of marriage.
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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 May 23 15:57 BST (UK) »
I completely understand what you are saying, but these documents contain information given by the person themselves. They don't actually have to prove it. I have just learnt from past experience that it is good to keep an open mind.

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Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 May 23 16:02 BST (UK) »
And even more oddly, the maiden surname for Mary Ann on the births of her children is Minnard/Minard:

CHESTER, NANCY  mmn MINNARD  GRO Reference: 1878  M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE  Volume 09B  Page 242
CHESTER, JOHN  mmn MINARD  GRO Reference: 1879  S Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE  Volume 09B  Page 219
CHESTER, RUTH   mmn MINNARD  GRO Reference: 1881  J Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE  Volume 09B  Page 233
CHESTER, MARY  ELIZABETH mmn MINNARD  GRO Reference: 1882  D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE  Volume 09B  Page 205

and so on...
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 May 23 16:07 BST (UK) »
Wow, I hadn't noticed that, even on my ancestors record, Harold Chester, it is also MINNARD, Mary is a mystery lol  ;D
Mills - North Bierley / Hull / Burin Bay, Canada
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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 14 May 23 16:12 BST (UK) »
What did I say about people providing weird and wacky information  ;D

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Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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Re: Mary Ann Wilson Brickwall, who are her parents?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 14 May 23 16:29 BST (UK) »
The only sort-of explanation I can come up with is this marriage in Kilburn on 15 Mar 1862:

Askwith WILSON 20 Farmers Servant, Sessay, Father = William Wilson, Labourer
Ruth MAYNARD 20 Spinster, Wass, Father = Robert Maynard, Labourer
Witnesses: Elizabeth Maynard (X), John Wilson

Ruth signed, but Askwith signed X.

I don't see any sign of them after this  ???
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.