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Re: still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 13:10 BST (UK) »
Given the mention above of Bridewell Court, Ballymena, where a 51 year old Ellen McCrory died in 1875, I wondered about the bride in the following 1877 marriage, 19 year old Ellen McCrory of that address, daughter of William McCrory a labourer, marrying a Richard McLoughlin:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11122/8071798.pdf


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Re: still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 13:37 BST (UK) »
Gaffy I was so excited when I saw your post .....but
once I read it , it made me rethink !
I know it doesnt rule it out but they were protestant (in fact the men of the family were Orange men) and it says Ellen McCrory was married in St Patricks !
so I dont think it is the same family :-(
but thank you very much for helping !
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Orr, Adair, McCafferty,McCrorie and McCrory, Millar,Strachan, Lewis,Linn, Arnott, Scott,Kerr,McKinnon , Jeffrey or Jaffrey,Lambie, Findlay and Meechan Ayrshire Scotland.

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Re: still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 14:04 BST (UK) »
St Patrick's Church of Ireland (Protestant).  I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it, but your choice.  :)


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Re: still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 15:11 BST (UK) »
St Patrick's Church of Ireland (Protestant).  I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it, but your choice.  :)
thank you I will certainly keep that information !
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Orr, Adair, McCafferty,McCrorie and McCrory, Millar,Strachan, Lewis,Linn, Arnott, Scott,Kerr,McKinnon , Jeffrey or Jaffrey,Lambie, Findlay and Meechan Ayrshire Scotland.


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Re: still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 23:45 BST (UK) »
If my 'fierce' Presbyterian family is anything to go by they often married from CoI churches, in fact at one stage marriages had to be in CoI to be legal?  I think? 

Tradition has it that the marriage is usually from the bride's church so St Patricks CoI church might have been the CoI church they were using, or the husband may have been CoI.

Elinga you can always check the denomination by looking at the handwritten register to see where the ceremony was held. 

Ellen Nichol and William McCrory are his parents

1 have you found all of Robert McCrory's siblings?
2 have you found his death certificate, who was the informant?
3 Have you found all of his children and listed them in birth order?

There are finding aids such as Griffiths, census scraps, Tithe references

The Irish had naming pattern and many followed it

'The Irish naming pattern is as follows:

1st son is named after the father’s father.
2nd son is named after the mother’s father.
3rd son is named after the father.
4th son is named after the father’s eldest brother.
 

1st daughter is named after the mother’s mother.
2nd daughter is named after the father’s mother.
3rd daughter is named after the mother.
4th daughter is named after the mother’s eldest sister.'
https://youririshheritage.com/lessons/irish-naming-patterns/

Sometimes you can come to a reasonable conclusion that such & such people may be the parents, especially if the siblings use similar names ie following the naming patterns. 

I think many of us would help but the plethora of posts is wearying/wearing/worrying.

Could you summarise the answers to the above questions from previous postings and we will give it a really good go......
And also commit to using this thread going forward.  ;D

Also there comes a time when we cannot find birth certificates etc and then we can use DNA and sometimes that can push us back a couple of generations if we come from a family/ies who are also genealogists. Have you had your DNA tested? 

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still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 May 23 12:46 BST (UK) »
Hi shanreagh
sorry I havent replied been away for a week !
so I will go over everything I have and try and post something in the best order I can !
yes I am familiar with the naming patterns, both irish and scottish and at least Robert and Maggies children followed it/them I say that as that they were brought up in Scotland !
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elinga
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 25 May 23 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Shanreagh
when Robert married Margaret (Maggie) 26.6.1874 , his address is given as Ballymena, hers is Irish Quarter Carrickfergus !

I am going to answer your questions as best as possible !
I have not found any of Roberts siblings !
yes I have has death certificate , he died 21.10.1933 his age is  89 so suggested dob is 1844 !
William McCrory and Ellen Nichol are his parents , his son William was the informant.

yes I have found all his children (at least I think I have) , Arthur died in Carrickfergus and Elizabeth was born there , the rest born in Scotland !
Arthur Adair 1875-1876
Elizabeth Mary 1877-1953
Ellen 1879-1951
William 1881-1946
Robert Alexander 1881-1884
Margaret 1883-1885
Arthur 1885- 1951
Margaret Alexander 1887-1951
Robert 1889-1918
Mary Ann 1891-1969
Isabella Kilpatrick 1893-1934
male child still born 1894
Samuel 1895-1966


Samuel is my grandfather and his children were ,Mary,Margaret,Samuel,William,Mary,Albert,Robert.
he also seems to follow the pattern !

thats what I know !
regards
Elinga



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Orr, Adair, McCafferty,McCrorie and McCrory, Millar,Strachan, Lewis,Linn, Arnott, Scott,Kerr,McKinnon , Jeffrey or Jaffrey,Lambie, Findlay and Meechan Ayrshire Scotland.

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 19 January 24 11:47 GMT (UK) »
still searching , but I have had time to reflect on the information that  Gaffy gave me regarding the marriage of Ellen McCrory and Richard McLaughlin (McLoughlin) in 1877 in Ballymena and have been trying to find more about them , if they had children atc , but to no avail !
the more I think about them I beiieve they are connected to me !
so if anyone can hlep me find their children or point me in a directionto to trace them I would be most appreciative....
thanx in advance
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Elinga
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Orr, Adair, McCafferty,McCrorie and McCrory, Millar,Strachan, Lewis,Linn, Arnott, Scott,Kerr,McKinnon , Jeffrey or Jaffrey,Lambie, Findlay and Meechan Ayrshire Scotland.

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Re: still searching for my great grand father Robert McCrory
« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 January 24 12:59 GMT (UK) »
I can see twin boys born to a couple with those names in 1884, I imagine there must be earlier children:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02705/1995889.pdf