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Thomas Cullen , Mary Nolan and son Michael Cullen
« on: Tuesday 16 May 23 22:35 BST (UK) »
This is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack, but worth a go.

I have Thomas Cullen born c1813 Ireland on the English census 1851 in Bradford, West Yorkshire with wife Mary born c1829 Dublin (got this from another census), son Michael born c1845 Ireland and Thomas born c1850 Bradford England.i also have two daughters born Bradford: Mary Ann c1852 and Agnes 1853 and son, John, born Leeds in 1856.

Thomas senior, Mary and son Michael must have left Ireland between 1845 and 1850.
On the General records office, I've found that Agnes, Mary Ann and John's mother's maiden name was Nolan/ Nowlan.

I was hoping that there might be a marriage for Thomas and Mary and/or Michael or any other children's baptisms?
I'm assuming Dublin, beacuse that's where Mary says she's from and it's all I've got to go on.

Bit of a long shot, I know.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Thomas Cullen , Mary Nolan and son Michael Cullen
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 09:57 BST (UK) »
Associated post here for background info 

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Re: Thomas Cullen , Mary Nolan and son Michael Cullen
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 May 23 05:24 BST (UK) »
Just a couple of points

Is the approx DoB of Mary correct?  Would she have been 16 - I note you have said in another thread that she was born c1825.

Do you have the dates of death of Thomas Cullen, Mary Nowlan/Nolan Cullen and Michael Cullen.

Are you aware of the irish naming pattern that some families used, even after leaving Ireland.  it can give clues to go further back

The Irish naming pattern is as follows:

1st son is named after the father’s father.
2nd son is named after the mother’s father.
3rd son is named after the father.
4th son is named after the father’s eldest brother.
 

1st daughter is named after the mother’s mother.
2nd daughter is named after the father’s mother.
3rd daughter is named after the mother.
https://youririshheritage.com/lessons/irish-naming-patterns/

So it may be possible that Michael is named for the father of Thomas Cullen Snr and Agnes for the mother of Thomas Snr.  NB Agnes is sometimes a diminutive of Nancy, and Anne and Nancy are sometimes interchangeable.