Brown problem

[eileenwilson]

I believe John and Mary are too young to be James' parents; rather, I think James is a younger brother of John. The 1911 census indicates that Mary has borne 8 children, of which 5 are still living, and they have been married 33 years, so married around 1878.

Charles' marriage in 1883 gives his address as Little Donegal Street and his father as Campbell Martin (deceased). John Brown is one of the witnesses, but I've yet to find John & Mary's marriage:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10946/8000785.pdf

[Gortinanima]

I believe John and Mary are too young to be James' parents; rather, I think James is a younger brother of John. The 1911 census indicates that Mary has borne 8 children, of which 5 are still living, and they have been married 33 years, so married around 1878.

Charles' marriage in 1883 gives his address as Little Donegal Street and his father as Campbell Martin (deceased). John Brown is one of the witnesses, but I've yet to find John & Mary's marriage:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10946/8000785.pdf

The marriage was in 1875

St Patrick's RC, Belfast marriage
23-Nov-1875   
John Brown of Birch Street, son of John & Hanna Brown married Mary Martin of Little Donegall Street dau of Campbell & Isabella Martin
Witnesses - Matthew Maglorinan & Mary Mulholland      
Notes: Dispensation from Rev J Hamill & Rev E Crawford
Note - Birch Street ran off Little Donegall Street

[aghadowey]

I know the age is a bit off but could this be your James Brown in 1901 with mother Hanna and brother William?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Kent_Street/933678/

[aghadowey]

Something to consider?
Ellen Brown, daughter of John Brown & Hanna ?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/249/mode/1up

Can anyone read Hanna's name?

[eileenwilson]

Could Hanna's maiden name be Skene?

[shanreagh]

Could Hanna's maiden name be Skene?

I can't find it at all...could we have clue with a date please? 

[Kiltaglassan]

Could Hanna's maiden name be Skene?

I can't find it at all...could we have clue with a date please?

5 December 1864
Six lines from bottom, right hand page

Added:
Concur with eileenwilson, could be Skene.

[gaffy]

Baptism of John from a St. Patrick's (Belfast) register, 1855:

" [ditto from above, ie. 6 September] John Brown John Hanna Skays Thomas Karin? Catherine Lynch

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/54/mode/1up  (right hand page, 20 lines down)

John and Hanna Brown had several children baptised in St. Patricks from 1855 to 1865, this is the clearest entry I could see, for Ellen #1 on 11 April 1859:

" Ellen Brown John + Hanna Skeas   Margaret Kearney

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/141/mode/1up  (right hand page, 16 lines down)

Marriage in St. Patrick's, Belfast, on 27 September 1854:

" John Brown Hannah Skey Michael Bernott Margt. Leitch?  (right hand page, 2nd line  up from bottom)

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633210#page/306/mode/1up

[Gortinanima]

I know the age is a bit off but could this be your James Brown in 1901 with mother Hanna and brother William?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Kent_Street/933678/

Thanks for this -

Seems to be a good lead as Kent Street is close to Unity Street which was the address of James Brown upon his marriage in 1902 (both streets close to Carrick Hill and St Patrick's RC Church).

I can confirm that the maiden name of James' mother was Hanna Skea.

PS - ages are always a difficulty in this period but there is a significant difference (36 in 1901 census and 28 upon marriage 1902).