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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 May 23 06:58 BST (UK) »
First Ellenbogen born in Liverpool was Emanuel Ellenbogen in 1871
Gertrude was born 1893 - West Derby ,Liverpool - Gateacre Village comes under West Derby District registration
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 May 23 07:10 BST (UK) »
HMMMM-
Death notice
Deaths Jun 1980   
ELLENBOGEN    GERTRUDE    22JY1894    LIVERPOOL    36   1064   

so - did Gertrude and Abraham actually marry ???  she died as Ellenbogen ?? and was born 1894 - not 1893 like my first post stated  ??? 
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Deaths Sep 1975   
MARSDEN    ABRAHAM    30JE1892    LIVERPOOL    36   772
sorry to say this but I don't think Abraham and Gertrude actually married - unless it was outside the UK ??
only one child and Gertrude was 32 at the time of the birth

Births Jun 1926   
Marsden    Cyril B    Ellenbogen    Birkenhead    8a   912    

Do you know what Abrahams occupation was ??
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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #11 on: Monday 22 May 23 08:35 BST (UK) »
Liverpool 1924 Q3
Abraham Marzkoff
spouse Gertrude Ellenbogen

Arrival at Liverpool 1935 from St John, New Brunswick
Abraham Marskoff 43
Canada
21 Bedford Street Liverpool, Tailor's Presser
seems to have been deported?

1939
14 Hampstead Road
Abraham Marskoff or Abe Marsden married, dob 30/6/1892
Minnie Levene [Marsden] single, dob 28/7/1902

1939
3 Jubilee Grove, Wallasey
Gertrude Marsden, married, dob 1/9/1893
Matilda Ellenbogen, widow, dob 12/10/1854
Cyril B Marsden 21/3/1920

Liverpool 1950 Q1
Abraham Marskoff
spouse Minnie Levene

Gertrude Marsden
mn Ellenbogen
born Liverpool 1/9/1893
burial 1982, Bathurst Lawn Memorial Park, Toronto, Canada
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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #12 on: Monday 22 May 23 10:44 BST (UK) »
Really appreciate all your input.
Garstonite - Interested primarily Mazorkoffs, but the info you have given me on the  Ellenbogen family is very interesting and I have included all on the page for Abraham Mazorkoff(Marsden.
Alan Boyd - I have most of that info, but not the 1939 for Gertrude or the 1935 return of Abraham.  You say it seems he was deported? 

Now Abraham was first married to Fanny Yeltsin and they had one son and divorced because Fanny had an affair with Myer Mc.Kenna. He then married Gertrude and off to Canada and he returned in 1935.  Back in the UK he married Minnie Levene.

Question 1.if he married Minnie Levene in 1950 why does the death of Gertrude in Canada state husband Abraham Marsden(Mazorkoff).  Divorced or bigamy?
Question 2. Abraham changed his surname to Marsden and on the MC  to Minnie it states also Abe Marsden. Don't think he did a Deed Poll as why would documents give his former name.

You are both more expert than I am and you have answered my questions.  Hope you don't mind my last two questions and then I will leave you in peace.

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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #13 on: Monday 22 May 23 12:17 BST (UK) »
Departure 11th August, 1934
Greenock–Quebec & Montreal
Abraham Marskoff, 42, 3, Vronhill Street, Liverpool, tailor's presser
Minnie Levene, 35, Sherdley Street, Liverpool, machinist

1921 census
35 Sherdley Street, Liverpool
Morris Levene and family, includes Minnie, 18.11, single, b. Liverpool
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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #14 on: Monday 22 May 23 12:25 BST (UK) »
Getting very complicated.

Liverpool, 1914 Q1
marriage
Abraham Marzkoff
Fanny Yelski

birth
West Derby 1915 Q1
Leslie Marskoff
mmn Yelski

marriage
Manchester 1925 Q2
Nyer (Myer?) McKennell
Fanny Yelski or Marzkoff

added: have just read your post, so you knew about this too.
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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #15 on: Monday 22 May 23 12:47 BST (UK) »
Deported? His name was in a list of four with the heading (from memory) Deported. Might have been Deportations.
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Re: Marsden Liverpool Marriage
« Reply #16 on: Monday 22 May 23 15:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you,
Must have been up to something.
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