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Regiment identification
« on: Sunday 21 May 23 16:24 BST (UK) »
I am trying to ascertain a Pte Georg Paul Bramwell cap badge/ Regiment. DOB 5 Feb 1899 Liverpool.

I have attached two photos.



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Tierney - Liverpool
Hearn - Suffolk, London, Midlands, West Lancashire. Liverpool.
Woodside - Liverpool, Midlands, Scotland, Wigtown.
Petersen/Peterson - Denmark, Hull, Liverpool
King - Hereford - Pencoyd, Monmouth
Harvey - Liverpool
Gray - Liverpool

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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 May 23 17:14 BST (UK) »
He is in the 1911 census at 21 Upper Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. There is a military record for a George Bramwell Royal Field Artillery, 3587, with that address.
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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 May 23 17:22 BST (UK) »
The photo is distorted by the (AI-based?) restoration, but it may be the expected field gun with crown above.
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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 May 23 17:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:14 BST (UK)
He is in the 1911 census at 21 Upper Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. There is a military record for a George Bramwell Royal Field Artillery, 3587, with that address.

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I did look at his Army Record and he lied about his age and in Sep 1915 he was discharged from the RFC for lying about his age.

The photo I think could be the York’s & Lancs Regiment? I very unsure


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Ryan - Liverpool
Tierney - Liverpool
Hearn - Suffolk, London, Midlands, West Lancashire. Liverpool.
Woodside - Liverpool, Midlands, Scotland, Wigtown.
Petersen/Peterson - Denmark, Hull, Liverpool
King - Hereford - Pencoyd, Monmouth
Harvey - Liverpool
Gray - Liverpool

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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 May 23 17:58 BST (UK) »
I can’t convince myself that there is a lion with a rose above (Y&LR) in that cap badge.

Mentioning this man to rule him out:

George Bramwell, 15467 Y&LR, of Birley Carr, Sheffield, awarded the Military Medal.
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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 May 23 18:37 BST (UK) »
The badly mangled restore doesn't help but possibly Small Arms School Corps.
Need to see the original.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 May 23 19:18 BST (UK) »
Quote from: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:58 BST (UK)
I can’t convince myself that there is a lion with a rose above (Y&LR) in that cap badge.

Mentioning this man to rule him out:

George Bramwell, 15467 Y&LR, of Birley Carr, Sheffield, awarded the Military Medal.

I don’t have the photo so it’s very difficult
I do know he was married in the Rotherham area in Jan 1918?

Ryan - Liverpool
Tierney - Liverpool
Hearn - Suffolk, London, Midlands, West Lancashire. Liverpool.
Woodside - Liverpool, Midlands, Scotland, Wigtown.
Petersen/Peterson - Denmark, Hull, Liverpool
King - Hereford - Pencoyd, Monmouth
Harvey - Liverpool
Gray - Liverpool

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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 May 23 19:19 BST (UK) »
Quote from: jim1 on Sunday 21 May 23 18:37 BST (UK)
The badly mangled restore doesn't help but possibly Small Arms School Corps.
Need to see the original.

I am afraid I don’t have the original
Ryan - Liverpool
Tierney - Liverpool
Hearn - Suffolk, London, Midlands, West Lancashire. Liverpool.
Woodside - Liverpool, Midlands, Scotland, Wigtown.
Petersen/Peterson - Denmark, Hull, Liverpool
King - Hereford - Pencoyd, Monmouth
Harvey - Liverpool
Gray - Liverpool

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Re: Regiment identification
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 May 23 20:37 BST (UK) »
He was discharged from the RFA, but he did serve for a while. Would he have been entitled to wear a version of the uniform for a photo after the discharge? And even if not, perhaps he did it anyway.
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