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Helen MALCOLM nee Campbell died 1922 Dunedin
« on: Tuesday 23 May 23 06:22 BST (UK) »
Looking for Parents of Helen Campbell born 1840s
married Donald MALCOLM 29 December 1869 Dunedin.  Marriage Certificate 1869/8301.
At $33 certificate expensive to purchase.
Can anyone please help.
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Re: Helen MALCOLM nee Campbell died 1922 Dunedin
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 May 23 07:17 BST (UK) »
Hello,

We usually advise to get the Printout as it is cheaper, has more information on it, and can be emailed to you.

There are quite a few trees for this couple on Ancestry.   Some have the marriage date as 19th and others as 29th Dec 1869.

Looks like Helen's parents were James Campbell 1896 and Helen Donaldson 1802

Helen's birth year looks to be around 1835.


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Re: Helen MALCOLM nee Campbell died 1922 Dunedin
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 May 23 10:32 BST (UK) »
Information on a marriage cert 1854-1880

Bride and Groom

    When and where married
    Name and Surname
    Age
    Rank or profession
    Condition
    Name of officiating minister (or Registrar)
    When registered

Signatures

    Signatures of bride and groom
    Signatures of the witnesses
    Signature of officiating minister (or registrar)

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/marriage

Helen was said to be 84 when she died so born around 1838.  Headstone has her age as 85.

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Re: Helen MALCOLM nee Campbell died 1922 Dunedin
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 May 23 22:45 BST (UK) »
Not particularly helpful but here are the death notices & cemetery details:

Death notice for Helen Malcolm:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW19220606.2.149?end_date=31-12-1922&items_per_page=10&query=helen+malcolm&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1922&title=AHCOG%2cBH%2cCL%2cCROMARG%2cDUNST%2cESD%2cLCM%2cLCP%2cLWM%2cMIC%2cMTBM%2cNOT%2cOAM%2cODT%2cOW%2cTT&type=ARTICLE

Death notice for Donald Malcolm
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https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19160219.2.30?end_date=31-12-1916&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=donald+malcolm&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1916&title=AHCOG%2cBH%2cCL%2cCROMARG%2cDUNST%2cESD%2cLCM%2cLCP%2cLWM%2cMIC%2cMTBM%2cNOT%2cOAM%2cODT%2cOW%2cTT

Burial details: [with headstone photograph]

https://www.dunedin.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/cemeteries-search?recordid=69039&type=Burial

[A death printout should contain more information than the marriage printout. Dependent of course on the knowledge of the person registering the death.]

Added: Death data collected:

After 1875 - Registration of Births and Deaths Act 1875 (dated 12 October 1875)
Local number
Deceased

When and where died
Name and surname
Rank or profession or occupation
Sex and Age
Detail of Death

Cause of death
Duration of last illness
Medical attendant who certified the cause of death and when they last saw the deceased
Parents

Name and Surname of father
Name and if known maiden surname of mother
Rank or profession or occupation of father
Burial Details

When and where buried
Name and Religion of Minister or name of witness of burial
Birth Details

Where born
How long in New Zealand
Marriage Details

Where married
At what age married
Children
If living issue, the number, age and sex
To whom married
Informant

Signature, description and residence of informant
If the entry is a correction of a former entry signature of witnesses
Who witnessed the correction.
Registrar

Signature of registrar
Date of registration


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Helen MALCOLM nee Campbell died 1922 Dunedin
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 11:17 BST (UK) »
If Donald and Helen's ages are correct at death then they were both a bit older when they married.  Even though the marriage cert won't tell you much, I would want to see it in case either had been previously married.

Debra  :)