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Soldier's address
« on: Wednesday 24 May 23 14:42 BST (UK) »
I have a photo here showing a Great War soldier, and on the back are the details "Archie M. Fraser. Killed in action June 1916". A search on CWGC finds only one record which fits for 1916. His service number was 16822 and he served with the Royal Scots Fusiliers. He was 31 years old when he died. I am trying to locate where he lived at the time of his death - any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Soldier's address
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:01 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for a birth on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk?

There is one in 1879 for an Archibald McDermid Fraser in Dunbarton - mmn McDermid

In the absence of his WW1 record having survived your best bet is the 1911 Scottish census - pay per view on SP

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KIA June 1916 on photo - how can he match the one on the CWGC site - he was KIA March 1916 & was just Archibald - no second name?
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:14 BST (UK) »
Also - Archibald McDermid Fraser died 1957 Dunbarton so not him
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:27 BST (UK) »
Why have you dismissed the CWGC entry for Archibald McLaren Fraser?  Ticks the boxes for initials & month/year of death
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:39 BST (UK) »
If the CWGC entry is the correct man, then there is a discrepancy over his actual date of death and which battalion he was in. The Soliders Died in the Great War database* has 27 March 1916 and 2nd Battalion, but the CWGC says it was 17 March and the 1st Battalion. The medal index card for Pte 16822 Fraser, Archibald shows him as 2nd Battalion and having first gone to France 17 February 1915.

* The Long, Long Trail describes the Great War database as follows: "“Soldiers Died in the Great War” is a list of soldiers who lost their lives, compiled into a 1921 HMSO publication. The information was based on regimental records. It was originally published in a large number of regimental volumes, listing men by unit and surname.   It is a generally reliable source but does (inevitably) contain some errors of fact and omissions."

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:40 BST (UK) »
Why have you dismissed the CWGC entry for Archibald McLaren Fraser?  Ticks the boxes for initials & month/year of death
Because that one does not show up on my results ... sorry my search skills probably aren't as good as others, that's why I'm here asking.
This photo came with a collection of photos mostly from one family in one town and I'm trying to find out if this town is where he lived, and whether the other photos are connected to him.
Ossett history, Cussons chemist, Ashby in Dallowgill, Yorkshire.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:45 BST (UK) »
Why have you dismissed the CWGC entry for Archibald McLaren Fraser?  Ticks the boxes for initials & month/year of death
Also LCpl Archibald McDonald Fraser 3445 14th (County of London) Battalion The London Scottish Regiment, died 9 Sep 1916 - although not the correct month, like Pte 16822 Fraser.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:53 BST (UK) »
Pte 16822 Archibald Fraser is listed the Soldiers Died in the Great War as born and enlisted in Glasgow, if that is of any help. CWGC says he was 31, ie born c1885.  There's an Archibald Fraser born 1885, son of Archibald Fraser  (blacksmith) in both the 1891 (3, Sawmillfield Street, Glasgow, Milton, Lanarkshire, Scotland) and 1901 (65, Water Street, Glasgow, St Rollox, Lanarkshire, Scotland) censuses.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:57 BST (UK) »
MIC for Pte 16822 Fraser below. If you can find the same card on Ancestry, they may have an image of the reverse side of the card where there may be an address to which his medals were sent.