Holland House

[xpress4]

Hello,

My ancestors were staying in or around Holland House in the 1861 census. I'll be visiting England this year and hoping to visit the property. Can anyone help me narrow down where they stayed exactly by the limited information on the census record? I've looked online but the property seems to have undergone many changes over the years.

They were Denis & Bridget Moore

Thank you,
Brenda

[JimUK]

Hi Brenda – is this the Holland House in Holland Park? If so, it's a pretty swanky residence! From memory, the Holland House I'm thinking of is in or near the Kyoto Garden in Holland Park. You should be able to find it on Google Maps. Is that any help?

[xpress4]

Thanks Jim! I believe so, and yes pretty swanky. I don't quite understand why they were there as I don't think they had a lot of money. He worked for the Ordnance Survey Dept and that probably has something to do with it.

The issue I'm having is determining if the building where he was living still exists. Maybe I've got to find a historical map. Would be great if there were old records/leases for that place. Would make life easier 

[JimUK]

You might be lucky and find the original house still stands. On Google Maps, 105 Holland Road still exists, and is adjacent to either 103 or 107 (obvs! ) – difficult to tell from the map. A lot of the opposite side of the road (even numbers?) looks to have been redeveloped over the years. Nearest tube looks like Kensington for Olympia. Enjoy your visit!

[Watson]

In the 1839 Pigot's Directory of Middlesex, the Hammersmith section contains entries for Isaac Cohen and Louisa Cohen at Holland House, Middle Mall, the former for a school for gentlemen boarders, and the latter for a school for lady boarders.  However, it may have been a different Holland House, since yours was listed in Holland Road - unless the name was changed.

[ShaunJ]

On Google Maps, 105 Holland Road still exists

104 is the schedule number, not the house number

[ShaunJ]

An 1873 newspaper report places Holland House in "Masborough" Road, Hammersmith, presumably Masbro Road.  There is a Hofland Road off Masbro Road so I'm wondering if Holland Road in the 1861 is a mistranscription.

[xpress4]

I Google mapped it and it looks like there is a Holland Road  (A3220 now from the looks of it?) near the park in Hammersmith. It looks to be .6 miles from Holland House. Maybe back then, the entire place stretched to the road and they lumped it together in the census. It definitely says Holland House, then Holland Road on the census document.

I guess there's no way to find the exact location where they were actually living given that 

[maddys52]

This 1866 map clearly shows Holland House and Holland Road, there is also Holland Villas Road and Holland Park Road.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345961#zoom=6&lat=2671&lon=10261&layers=BT

The census shows Denis MOORE and family on Holland Road, not at Holland House which is occupied by James WILSON and family.