Elizabeth Stevens ms Menzies, Dalry

[softly softly]

Possibly 1891

Name   Mary Menzie
Age   86
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1805
Relationship   Head
Gender   Female
Where born   Ireland
Registration Number   901
Registration district   Wigtown
Civil parish   Wigtown
Town   Wigtown
County   Wigtownshire
Address   South Side of Back Road

[MonicaL]

I think Mary Mason Menzies died in England. Needs further research and confirmation, but potentially at least sons William and David made their lives in Lancashire after their marriages.

So we have the death of David Snr in 1889. Looks likely that this is from when Mary, mother, left for England at some point (added, after 1891 with John's 1891 census entry for her).

1901 entry in Dalton in Furness, Ulverston

David Menzies 74 b. Scotland
Matilda Menzies 65 b. Scotland
Alexander L Menzies 25 b. Dalton-in-Furness
Margaret Menzies 33 b. Dalton-in-Furness
Mary Menzies 96 Mother b. Chatham, Kent ??

Death notices appeared for her in a number of papers. See clip below from Witney Gazette and West Oxfordshire Advertiser, 19 March 1904. Another one mentioned that her husband had passed away some years at the age of 101 (close enough!).

Added: The Manchester Courier, 15 March 1904, states she was born on 14 March 1805 in Wigtown. Maybe correct birth date, just wrong place. All her Scottish census entries showed Ireland as her birth place.

[Rfarace]

A lot for me to consider. I won’t be able to try to connect it with what I definitely know quite yet, as I have to run out and run errands, but I’ll start spelunking later. Thank you!

[Forfarian]

Be aware that Wigton in Cumberland, England is not the same place as Wigtown in Wigtownshire, Scotland.

This may not, of course, have been known to the writer of the piece in the Witney Gazette and West Oxfordshire Advertiser.

[softly softly]

Be aware that Wigton in Cumberland, England is not the same place as Wigtown in Wigtownshire, Scotland.

This may not, of course, have been known to the writer of the piece in the Witney Gazette and West Oxfordshire Advertiser.

That's a very good point.

Sadly she probably died before her 100th birthday.

Deaths Dec 1904   
Menzies    Mary    99    Ulverston    8e   565

David appears on 1911 census confirming his place of birth, with his son Alexander Laurie Menzies.

Death of son & his wife

Deaths Mar 1912 
Menzies    David    85    Ulverston    8e   1133

Deaths Sep 1909 
MENZIES    Matilda    74    Ulverston    8e   43

John

added, if you believe this to be your family and they are buried in Dalton in Furness I live 5 minuets away and would be happy to take any photographs of headstones if they survive.

[softly softly]

Believe this to be confirmation of findings previously posted. Elizabeth Stevens nee' Menies/Menzies has a brother David born c1827 Wigtown.

David MANYS marries Matilda Lawrie 14.8.1860

David records his father as David Manys, his mother as Mary nee' Mason

1871 england census ref 4243 67 38, Parents david & Matilda +3 children

MENNIES, JANE       LOWREY 
GRO Reference: 1863  D Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 599

MENIES, MARGARET       LOWRIE
GRO Reference: 1868  M Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 720

MENIES, WILLIAM       LOWRIE 
GRO Reference: 1869  D Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 684

In 1911 census David appears with another son Alexander Laurie

MENIES, ALEXANDER  LAURIE     LOURIE 
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 733

John

[softly softly]

Elizabeth's sister Jane

POWELL
Jane (Menzies)

Married John Powell 22.5.1854 Hobart Tasmania  (9 children born to John & Jane)

Death
Mother Mary ******
Father Menzies David

Melb E

aged 78

Died 1913