Jane Morgan - Where are her parents?

[littleem1906]

Hi all

I'm looking into JANE MORGAN (born around 1856-1960) in Oldbury. Here are the things I know about her thus far:

Jane married William Ashcroft on 3rd September 1877 in Dudley, Staffordshire. She was listed as being 21 years old (so her birth year would have been 1856). All I can see (without the certificate) is that her father's name was Thomas Morgan.

Post-marriage, I have found her and William in the following census records: 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911.

Her children were: Caroline (1878), Mary Jane (1879), George (1881), William (1883), John Thomas (1885), Samuel (1887), John (1888-1888), Ernest (1888), John (1891), Emma (1892), Frederick (1894), Robert (1898), Sarah (1900) and Edith May (1909).

In each census above she was living in Oldbury. She is also consistently cited as being born in Oldbury. However, her year of birth changes between census record as follows: 1881 (1855), 1891 (1860), 1901 (1858), 1911 (1859).

I'm struggling to find a death for Jane. Her husband William died on 16th July 1919. Address given was 41 Halesowen Street, Oldbury. I did look for Jane in the 1921 census but I couldn't find her so she could have died some time between 1911 and 1921.

I'm also struggling to find Jane's parents. On her marriage banns her father is listed as Thomas Morgan. However, I can find no Jane Morgan living with a father Thomas prior to her marriage in 1877. I did find a Jane (born in 1856) living in Doddenham with mother Mary Morgan. This Jane was baptised alongside two siblings (John and Mark) in 1857 in Knightwick. However, this seems to be a distance from Oldbury, and the census records are consistent in saying Jane was born in Oldbury.

Any help would be appreciated.

[HistoricalGenealogy]

This is the Marriage Entry of Jane Morgan:

Marriage - William ASHCROFT & Jane MORGAN September 3rd, 1877
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01scb/

In order to find the birth record of Jane Morgan, we need more details. Finding the Mother would help.

[rosie99]

This is the Marriage Entry of Jane Morgan:

Marriage - William ASHCROFT & Jane MORGAN September 3rd, 1877
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01scb/

In order to find the birth record of Jane Morgan, we need more details. Finding the Mother would help.

That link goes to Ancestry registration page

[rosie99]

I'm struggling to find a death for Jane. Her husband William died on 16th July 1919. Address given was 41 Halesowen Street, Oldbury. I did look for Jane in the 1921 census but I couldn't find her so she could have died some time between 1911 and 1921.

Did Williams death certificate indicate whether he was widowed

[trish1120]

I can see 2 entries for a Thomas Morgan in Oldbury.

Bapt 22 Dec 1839 Parents THOMAS/ANN, Father a Carpenter
Burial 05 Jun 1874 age 66 (c 1808)

[rosie99]

Her children were: Caroline (1878), Mary Jane (1879), George (1881), William (1883), John Thomas (1885), Samuel (1887), John (1888-1888), Ernest (1888), John (1891), Emma (1892), Frederick (1894), Robert (1898), Sarah (1900) and Edith May (1909).

The birth registration for Edith May suggests that she may be illegitimate, could she be a grandaughter rather than a daughter


ASHCROFT, EDITH  MAY     - 
GRO Reference: 1910  December Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 763
 

[trish1120]

1881 Mary Morgan, Widow, Mother ( should be in Law ) is living with them.
Born c 1831 Warwickshire

[littleem1906]

Her children were: Caroline (1878), Mary Jane (1879), George (1881), William (1883), John Thomas (1885), Samuel (1887), John (1888-1888), Ernest (1888), John (1891), Emma (1892), Frederick (1894), Robert (1898), Sarah (1900) and Edith May (1909).

The birth registration for Edith May suggests that she may be illegitimate, could she be a grandaughter rather than a daughter


ASHCROFT, EDITH  MAY     - 
GRO Reference: 1910  December Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 763

Yes, there is a chance that Edith May could belong to one of the daughters rather than Jane.

[littleem1906]

1881 Mary Morgan, Widow, Mother ( should be in Law ) is living with them.
Born c 1831 Warwickshire

Yes. The age on the census could be 50 or 60 - it isn't fully clear.