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Offline kob3203

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Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« on: Monday 29 May 23 05:25 BST (UK) »
I've seen this a couple of times, once in England and once in the US, both mid 1900s.

Have I got the wrong couples or is this something that occasionally happens ?

Note that I haven't got the marriage certificate for either yet.
Most roots researched back to the early/mid 1800s. Years noted as 'pre' refer to my direct ancestors, although I'm interested in any relatives:
Mitchelstown, Co.Cork: CORBETT (pre1935), SWEENEY  (pre1935), CUSACK? (pre1894), KEYS? (pre1894)
Mallow, Co.Cork: BROWNE (1895-1935)
Caher, Co.Tipp: BROWNE (pre1895), PURTELL(pre1895)
Cashel, Co.Tipp: FANNING (pre1886)
Llanelly, Carms: GRIFFITHS (pre1934), REYNOLDS (pre1901), WILLIAMS (pre1934)
Ton Pentre, Glams: LEWIS (pre1901)

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 May 23 06:04 BST (UK) »
It certainly happened that couples living together claimed to be married.
Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 May 23 07:31 BST (UK) »
People didn’t always tell the truth. Divorce was not easy, Sometimes a later marriage was because one of the couple were already married to someone else, so waited for first spouse to die before they could marry the current partner
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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 May 23 09:01 BST (UK) »

On the census forms the marital status applies to the individual, not to the family or any apparent couple - therefore it is quite possible for two people to be living in a household and both correctly shown as married... just not necessarily to each other.


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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 May 23 11:03 BST (UK) »
People didn’t always tell the truth. Divorce was not easy, Sometimes a later marriage was because one of the couple were already married to someone else, so waited for first spouse to die before they could marry the current partner
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Yes, I have seen this happen several times. Not exactly sure what the reason was, it could have been because they were in a big city and knew no one would really know if they were legally married or not, or it could be one of the partners was previously married as you said, and they waited for that partner's spouse to die or to save to be able to afford the divorce fees perhaps.

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 May 23 11:08 BST (UK) »

On the census forms the marital status applies to the individual, not to the family or any apparent couple - therefore it is quite possible for two people to be living in a household and both correctly shown as married... just not necessarily to each other.

That doesn’t work, because the column between the name and marital status requires the relation ship to the head of the household.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 May 23 11:17 BST (UK) »

On the census forms the marital status applies to the individual, not to the family or any apparent couple - therefore it is quite possible for two people to be living in a household and both correctly shown as married... just not necessarily to each other.

That doesn’t work, because the column between the name and marital status requires the relation ship to the head of the household.

Marital status and relationship to head are in two separate columns.

e.g.

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 May 23 11:25 BST (UK) »
That is what I said, the relationship is
between name and status. It only becomes less clear if the couple are in the middle of a large household.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Recorded as married on a census, but marriage occurs later
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 May 23 11:25 BST (UK) »
I researched my friends family some years ago.  Her grandparents had children from 1889 onwards but they only married in 1915 - religious differences apparently

On each census from 1891 - 1911 they are shown as a married couple - she is shown as “wife”
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