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Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« on: Wednesday 31 May 23 05:46 BST (UK) »
I know there were many, many deaths during the Napoleonic wars. Does anyone know if there are lists naming British army casualties for that period? I'm looking for a particular man who joined up in 1799, aged about 21, who is identified as being a soldier on family wills dated in the early 1800s. I haven't found a death for him in parish records, so wondered if he died on a battlefield somewhere.
Any suggestions?
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Palfrey - Radnorshire, Wales
Odell - Ontario, Canada
Gilmour - Newton Mearns, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Hare - Ipswich, Suffolk, England and Limerick, Ireland
Price - Antrim, Down, (now Northern) Ireland
Freeman - Waterford and Tramore, Ireland
Taylor - Taunton, Somerset, England
Helyar - Clifton, Bristol, England

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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 06:35 BST (UK) »
TNA guide:

How to look for records of...
British Army soldiers up to 1913


https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-soldiers-up-to-1913/


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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 11:37 BST (UK) »
Can you give us his name? Do you know his regiment? Where was he born? How do you know he enlisted in 1799?
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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 12:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Tony. That should keep me busy for a while.
James Palfrey enlisted on 25 July 1799, according to Findmypast's Napoleonic War Records. He was a private in 1/4 regiment of foot. He was the son of Richard and Jane Palfrey, and was baptised in the parish of Llanfihangel Rhydithon, Radnorshire, in December 1779.
His father died in 1796, when James and his three siblings were all under 21. The siblings are each named in several relatives' wills, with James consistently described as a soldier. The last will with this pattern was dated 1812, but when their aunt died in 1827, the other three siblings were mentioned but not the soldier. This makes me think he probably died between 1812 and 1827.
His brother died in Essex in 1830. Both sisters were married before the aunt died in 1827, one in London and the other in Wales. I don't know what became of their widowed mother, Jane.
There is another James Palfrey, the son of another Richard, who was baptised in another parish in Radnorshire in 1786. He married Elizabeth Owens and had children, but his residence at the time of their baptism identifies him as part of a different branch. 
 
Palfrey - Radnorshire, Wales
Odell - Ontario, Canada
Gilmour - Newton Mearns, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Hare - Ipswich, Suffolk, England and Limerick, Ireland
Price - Antrim, Down, (now Northern) Ireland
Freeman - Waterford and Tramore, Ireland
Taylor - Taunton, Somerset, England
Helyar - Clifton, Bristol, England


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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 12:34 BST (UK) »
So he was in the 1st Battalion of 4th Foot. History of the regiment: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/55391/55391-h/55391-h.htm

Ancestry has the muster books and paylists of 1/4th for 1812-1816 and he doesn't appear there. So probably died before 1812. It all points to the campaign in the Peninsula (Spain/Portugal) circa 1810/1811.

There aren't any casualty lists  - it would be a question of researching earlier musters at the  National Archives.
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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 12:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks, ShaunJ, the history of the regiment sure gives a lot of detail about where they were at different times. It looks very interesting. Any chance he was listed in the muster books as Palphrey? That alternate spelling appears from time to time.
Thanks for your help.
Palfrey - Radnorshire, Wales
Odell - Ontario, Canada
Gilmour - Newton Mearns, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Hare - Ipswich, Suffolk, England and Limerick, Ireland
Price - Antrim, Down, (now Northern) Ireland
Freeman - Waterford and Tramore, Ireland
Taylor - Taunton, Somerset, England
Helyar - Clifton, Bristol, England

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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 13:11 BST (UK) »
No James Palphrey either!
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Re: Casualties of Napoleonic wars -- named anywhere?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 May 23 13:22 BST (UK) »
That's too bad. I think he couldn't have died much earlier than 1810-11, as you suggested, or his name would not have been in the will of the uncle who signed it in early 1812.
News might not have travelled very fast  then, especially over that distance.
Thanks again.
Palfrey - Radnorshire, Wales
Odell - Ontario, Canada
Gilmour - Newton Mearns, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Hare - Ipswich, Suffolk, England and Limerick, Ireland
Price - Antrim, Down, (now Northern) Ireland
Freeman - Waterford and Tramore, Ireland
Taylor - Taunton, Somerset, England
Helyar - Clifton, Bristol, England