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James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« on: Sunday 04 June 23 07:47 BST (UK) »
James (ofttimes referred to as Jamye) Openshaw is stated in a large number of family trees as being born in 1660 at Pimhole, near Bury, Lancashire England, but I have been unable to find one reference to a reliable documentary evidence source. His father is said to have been James born 1639, his mother Mary unknown (though this might be a red herring due to a second marriage).  Can any Openshaw fans out there please direct me to a dated baptism record for James 1660?
Reference is also made to his death by drowning in 1717 while drowning; it would be interesting also to see the source of this tale.
HOLLINSHED, BRADY of Orford, Suffolk, Essex, Woolley, Stockport & London; THURSTON, SYER, CRABBE, ALLDIS, RIPPER, BATTALAY, BATELL. CHANDLER of Suffolk; PARR, &LAKE & LONG, Essex; WIKE, of Bury, London & Canterbury; OPENSHAW, ORMEROD of Bury, Lancs; BROTHERSON of St. Croix; MANGNALL & CUNLIFFE of Stockport; BEECH of Broughton; BARNETT, INGRAM of Lincs & Cambs; BRODIE/BRADY  North East Scotland; PAGE, GRAY, McKENZIE, McDOWELL, HOLT & MARTIN N.Ireland

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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 June 23 08:04 BST (UK) »
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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 June 23 08:08 BST (UK) »
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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 June 23 08:17 BST (UK) »
The point is, dear Garstonite, that the many trees are in conflict, and DON't give the source of their conflicting entries; hence my enquiry. Still no sources!
HOLLINSHED, BRADY of Orford, Suffolk, Essex, Woolley, Stockport & London; THURSTON, SYER, CRABBE, ALLDIS, RIPPER, BATTALAY, BATELL. CHANDLER of Suffolk; PARR, &LAKE & LONG, Essex; WIKE, of Bury, London & Canterbury; OPENSHAW, ORMEROD of Bury, Lancs; BROTHERSON of St. Croix; MANGNALL & CUNLIFFE of Stockport; BEECH of Broughton; BARNETT, INGRAM of Lincs & Cambs; BRODIE/BRADY  North East Scotland; PAGE, GRAY, McKENZIE, McDOWELL, HOLT & MARTIN N.Ireland

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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 June 23 08:43 BST (UK) »
Have you had no responses from the tree holders?
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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 June 23 08:55 BST (UK) »
In truth I've only approached a couple so far, with no repsonse. However, isn't it  reasonable to assume, particularly with trees in conflict, that they would support the entries on their tree with sources? E.g the marriage of Eliz. Heywood to George Openshaw of Seales seems well supported by bond and allegations. .
HOLLINSHED, BRADY of Orford, Suffolk, Essex, Woolley, Stockport & London; THURSTON, SYER, CRABBE, ALLDIS, RIPPER, BATTALAY, BATELL. CHANDLER of Suffolk; PARR, &LAKE & LONG, Essex; WIKE, of Bury, London & Canterbury; OPENSHAW, ORMEROD of Bury, Lancs; BROTHERSON of St. Croix; MANGNALL & CUNLIFFE of Stockport; BEECH of Broughton; BARNETT, INGRAM of Lincs & Cambs; BRODIE/BRADY  North East Scotland; PAGE, GRAY, McKENZIE, McDOWELL, HOLT & MARTIN N.Ireland

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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 June 23 09:05 BST (UK) »
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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 June 23 09:13 BST (UK) »
You have a burial of a James Openshaw in Bury, 1717 - no age though.

There is a mention of a will (Admons.) but no access 1718. Have you tried to look for that? Cheshire: - Wills and Inventories, 1701-1720
It mentions birth 1657.
There may be little information though.
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Re: James Openshaw 1660, Bury Lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 June 23 10:11 BST (UK) »
I will certainly try to find the will, thank you, Heywood.
HOLLINSHED, BRADY of Orford, Suffolk, Essex, Woolley, Stockport & London; THURSTON, SYER, CRABBE, ALLDIS, RIPPER, BATTALAY, BATELL. CHANDLER of Suffolk; PARR, &LAKE & LONG, Essex; WIKE, of Bury, London & Canterbury; OPENSHAW, ORMEROD of Bury, Lancs; BROTHERSON of St. Croix; MANGNALL & CUNLIFFE of Stockport; BEECH of Broughton; BARNETT, INGRAM of Lincs & Cambs; BRODIE/BRADY  North East Scotland; PAGE, GRAY, McKENZIE, McDOWELL, HOLT & MARTIN N.Ireland
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