CLARK - Derbs/Staffs

[garlands]

Mary CLARKE was bap 05 Apr 1775 in Ellastone, Staffs, parents Thomas & Elizabeth.

The only marriage I've been able to find is:-

11 May 1752 - Thomas CLARK m Elizabeth COLLIER in Ellastone

Their offspring were:-

16 Feb 1753  Richard    bap in Norbury & Roston, Derbs
       do         Thomas         do            do          do
15 May 1757 John              do            do          do
06 May 1759 Joseph           do            do          do

Then follows a hiatus of some 14 years until

18 Jul 1773  Samuel     bap in Ellastone
05 Apr 1775 Mary                  do
03 Jul  1778 Ann                    do
02 Jul  1780 Elizabeth            do

I find it hard to believe that the above represent only one family, especially when considering the probable age of Elizabeth and the following burials in Ellastone:-

30 Jul 1759   Elizabeth CLARK
17 Oct 1768  Elizabeth CLARK, wife of Thomas

but I cannot find another Thomas & Elizabeth marriage between 1759 and 1773.

There is a strong possibility that this is Thomas's burial:-

29 Feb 1784  bur of Thomas CLARKE, aged 88, in Ellastone

and this is the burial of his second wife (if he had one):-

25 Jun 1826  bur of Elizabeth CLARK, aged 67, in Norbury

I am confused; can anyone help, please?

[ColC]

(freereg) records.

Thomas CLARK   Baptism   22 Nov 1724   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript Parents Samuel & Ann

OR

Thomas CLARKE    Baptism   10 Dec 1730   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript Father Thomas

Eliz COLLIER   Baptism   03 Nov 1723   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript Father Richard


Thomas CLARK (28) to Elizabeth COLLIER (29)
   Marriage   11 May 1752   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript

16 Feb 1753  Richard    bap in Norbury & Roston, Derbs
       do         Thomas         do            do          do
15 May 1757 John              do            do          do
06 May 1759 Joseph           do            do          do


Both the following noted as wife of Thomas.
Elizabeth CLERK   Burial   30 Jul 1759   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript

Elizabeth CLARK   Burial   17 Oct 1768   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript


These children I think are from a separate Thomas & Elizabeth (Elizabeth Collier would be 57 when Elizabeth below was born).

18 Jul 1773  Samuel     bap in Ellastone
05 Apr 1775 Mary                  do
03 Jul  1778 Ann                    do
02 Jul  1780 Elizabeth            do

Colin Clarke

[garlands]

Agreed.

Mary (1775) is my interest but, if we're correct and there are two families, where's the record of a marriage between Thomas CLARKE & Elizabeth XXXX prior to the bap of Samuel in 1773?

[garlands]

I'm thinking I should forget the apparent Derbs connection and concentrate on Ellastone. Should I mark this thread as 'complete' and open another thread in the Staffs section?

[ColC]

I'm not so sure you should forget the Derbyshire connection, Norbury is only 1 mile & Roston 2 miles from Ellastone, Staffs. Sadly I am unable to find the Derbyshire records for those two places but you noted that the Thomas & Elizabeth who married 1752 had a son Thomas in 1753, could he not be the father of Mary 1775.

There are marriages for a Thomas & Elizabeth in Staffordshire and elsewhere, or maybe the record did not survive, or they did not marry?

Colin

[garlands]

Unfortunately, you're right on all counts!

Anyway, I've just put a revised posting on Staffs but, in the light of your latest, I'm not very hopeful.

To avoid duplication, I shall mark this thread as 'completed' unless you think otherwise

George

[ColC]

Sometimes a similar post can confuse the issue, it is best to link the two otherwise members may waste time on what is already known.

Just add a reference of your new post to the original, I would suggest you do not mark the original as completed.

If in doubt contact the Moderator.

Colin 

[ColC]

Just for information.

Samuel Clark, Husbandman - Of Okeover, Mathfield   Marriage 24 Apr 1711Uttoxeter, Staffordshire Spouse Anne Walker of Ellaston

Residence not clear on family search, maybe other way around but OPR on FindMyPast

Sam/uel & Ann/e
Staffordshire   Ellastone: St Peter – Baptisms

Margaret Clerke 2 Mar 1712
Sarah Clerke 29 Oct 1713
Thomas Clark 2 Feb 1718 burial 17 Jul 1722
George Clarke 19 Jul 1720 burial 11 May 1721
John Clark 8 Apr 1722
Thomas Clark 22 Nov 1724 burial 21 Dec 1730    
Samuel Clarke 4 May 1728

No ages on all burials, above noted as sons of Sam & Ann.

Anne CLARK   Wife of Sam   Burial 10 Aug 1760   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter

Samuel CLARK   Burial   15 Jul 1763   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter ?


Colin

[ColC]

Baptisms Ellastone : St Peter (Not sure if this is one family.

Thomas CLARKE 10 Dec 1730 Father Thomas
Joseph Clarke 10 Oct 1732                 ditto

Parents Thos & Eliz
Anne CLARK 26 Dec 1728 burial 5 Feb 1732
Prudence Clarke 5 Nov 1737

So was it Thomas 1730 above that married below?

Elizabeth COLLIER to Thomas CLARK   Marriage   11 May 1752   Staffordshire   
Ellastone : St Peter

Maybe this is the father  of the above.

Thomas CLARKE   Burial age 88 (1696)   29 Feb 1784   Staffordshire   Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript

Colin