Author Topic: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton  (Read 547 times)

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OK, just went back and looked again. He seems to have several cards. This isn’t the one that I transcribed from earlier. As you can see, it shows an annotation with the gravestone number.
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Re: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 June 23 19:04 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all of you for your help in this and in straightening me out.  Sometimes it just helps to have another set of eyes looking at the same stuff and sometimes it just helps to have extra information!

So it looks like Frederick Callaway died of disease and had two army numbers 23589 and 1843640.

Cecil Callaway, although he was Frederick Callaway's brother, is not in the grave and survived into later life.  In that respect he and Winifred is a bit of a red herring, although interesting in building the whole family tree.

It is Charles A Callaway who is in the grave and we have his Army/RFC/RAF records from FindMyPast (even if there is a typo and it gives his name as Galloway).  Interestingly it says he was discharged to the RAF Reserve on 30 April 1920 which two years before he died. 
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Re: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 07:21 BST (UK) »
In answer to an earlier question the reason Charles Callaway does not appear in the CWGC database is that he did not qualify for war graves commemoration i.e. he did not die within the qualifying period 4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921. The First World War war graves at Hollybrook seem to be from deaths at the hospital and Charles may have died at the same hospital. The family may have requested he be buried in the existing grave, this before the stone headstones had been manufactured. Once things were more normalised the Commission was faced with this unusual situation and had to order up a non-standard headstone to address the issue.
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I have ordered the Death Certificates for the Callaway Brothers which may add some more info on them after they left the Army and RAF. 

It looks like Frederick joined the Army 'B' Reserve in 1919 and Charles Albert was discharged to the RAF Reserve on 30 April 1920.  We know that Frederick died of 'disease' in 1920 (source: Fold 3 Pension info) and Claude died two years later whilst a civilian so their cause of death may be related to their service hence the CWGC headstone for Frederick and the addition of Charles Albert in the unusual headstone.  There are hints of this in the attached headstone forms and as IMBER suggests above.

Charles Albert appears in the 1921 Census living in the house of his parents at 73 Paynes Road on 19 June 1921 when the census was taken.  He is shown as a Motor Driver and Married although his wife and children are not shown.  He married Violet Spreadbury in 1912 and had at least two children. 

Again thanks to all who have added to sorting this out.
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Re: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 June 23 10:12 BST (UK) »
According to the Death Certs both died of a form of Tuberculosis.  After a period of slow decline pre-war Tuberculosis increased during the War and shortly afterwards.  As they were accorded a CWGC Headstone it suggests the disease was linked to their military service. 

Frederick Callaway is given as an 'Army Pensioner' and he died at home (73 Paynes Road) of Phthisis Pulmonalis.  This is a wasting away caused by tuberculosis affecting the lungs leading to their destruction.

Charles Albert Callaway died of Miliary Tuberculosis.  This is where the tuberculosis bacteria spread to other organs than the lungs and is normally fatal.  Charles Albert was given as a Motor Car Driver and he died at ‘1a Chilworth Road’ which was used to denote the Shirley Warren Infirmary and the workhouse that preceeded it.
 
Interesting, given where I started out above, that the person registering Charles Albert’s death was his brother C Callaway (Claude) of 6 Onslow Road, Southampton. 
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Re: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 June 23 08:56 BST (UK) »
The Death Certs are back and both died of a form of Tuberculosis. 

Frederick Callaway is given as an 'Army Pensioner' and he died at home (73 Paynes Road) of Phthisis Pulmonalis.  This is a wasting away caused by tuberculosis affecting the lungs leading to their destruction.

Charles Albert Callaway died of Miliary Tuberculosis.  This is where the tuberculosis bacteria spread to  organs other than the lungs and is normally fatal.  Charles Albert was given as a Motor Car Driver and he died at ‘1a Chilworth Road’ which was used to denote the Shirley Warren Infirmary and the workhouse that preceeded it.  His address at the time was given as his parent's house at 73 Payne's Road. 

The person registering Charles Albert’s death was his brother C Callaway (Claude) of 6 Onslow Road, Southampton. 
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Re: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 17 June 23 10:54 BST (UK) »
You commented "As they were accorded a CWGC Headstone it suggests the disease was linked to their military service. " Yes, it appears that their disease may have been linked to their military service but, as I explained earlier, that makes no difference in the position of Charles. His commemoration on a CWGC headstone is incidental. He died outwith the Commission's qualifying dates for commemoration. In this connection it is interesting to see that in the additional official paperwork relating to Frederick there is a copy of his entry in the cemetery register. Alongside his name is the pencilled annotation  “ In this grave is also buried Callaway C 125941 RAF 31 July 1922 NWG”. NWG means non war grave. That is the reason why Charles does not appear in the Commission's on line register of names.
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Re: Frederick and Cecil CALLAWAY - buried CWGC Grave Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 June 23 10:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Imber

Thanks for clarifying.  I wasn't very clear.

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