Jane Lyons

[Pouch81Uk]

Hey all, thank you so much!! I don’t know how you do it, I looked on Ancestry and couldn’t find a thing!

I’m off to work now but I’ll check back this evening and go through all the replies.

You guys really are amazing!!

When they went back to Ireland they Ned and Jane had a son Douglas whom is my Dads father. I’ll add all this to my tree but superb I’m chuffed to bits 🤩👍🏼👍🏼

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Possible death for William Lyons 1866-1931 reg. Reading Berks

Maria 1867- 1935 reg. Reading Berks.

His mother Margaret 1831-1891 age 60 Uxbridge MDX buried 8 July 1891 St John Uxbridge Moor.

Matthew seemed to travel for work so I haven't found his yet.

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Possible birth, however Margaret 's father is a labourer not a farmer.
There are a lot of Thomas John in the area
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Margaret John daughter of Thomas John and his wife Elizabeth Tew daughter of John and Elizabeth Tew was born 3 May 1828 baptized 25 June 1828

Non Conformist. Wesleyan Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire

Thomas John was a farmer of Faulkstone, Roch Pembrokeshire

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this Margaret may be a better match for age than the one baptised 1828 and is in Haverfordwest. Thomas a labourer in this one.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M777-LGB

birth reg for George John march qtr 1841 Haverfordwest mmn Hughes

Family is in Lambston by 1851, no Margaret but she is old enough to be working elsewhere
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6X-T1C

Banns in Walton West Feb 1829 for Thomas John & Mary Hughs but haven't spotted marriage online.

Baptism Lambston 14 July 1805 Thomas son of James John & Margaret his wife.

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I agree I'll work on the witnesses to the marriage perhaps that will help.

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In the meantime back to Maria Smith born Rickmansworth Herts wife of William Lyons whose father is Harry a Blacksmith.

1871 census 4 Queen's Court, Uxbridge
Henry Smith 31  Blacksmith born Harefield Mdx
Fanny 30 born Rickmansworth
Elizabeth 10
Jane 6
Maria 3
James 1

Mother's maiden name for the children is Bowden
Henry Smith married Fanny Bowden 30 September 1860 at Rickmansworth Herts.
The transcription also says mother Elizabeth Bowden

The eldest daughter Elizabeth was born prior to the marriage as Elizabeth Bowden Illegitimate, as her parents married shortly afterwards I expect Henry/Harry Smith was her father

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1861 census Frogman Lane Rickmansworth
Henry Smith 21 born Harefield Mdx   ? Labourer
Fanny 20  born Rickmansworth
Elizabeth 9 months
Elizabeth Bowden 42 single Head  rag cutter in Paper Mill
Caroline 18  dau.              Rag cutter in paper mill
Mary 14  dau.
Emma 6  dau.
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GRO Index
Fanny 1840, Caroline 1842, Mary/Mary Ann 1846 (FreeBMD), Emma 1855 all registered Watford Union Illegitimate children of Elizabeth Bowden

1851 They are in the workhouse
Elizabeth Bowden 31 Mill worker
**Fanny 10
Caroline 9
Mary Ann 5
William 1     --reg. 1850 Illegitimate  possible death 1852 age 2
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There is also a Henry 1852  possible death 1852 age 0

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1841 census
William Bowden 55  Watchman  Not born in County
Elizabeth Bowden 20 rag sorter  Yes
Karrenappark?? Bowden 20 female silk thrower Yes
**Fanny Bowden 1  Yes

Married as Keren Happuck Bowden 27 February 1843 yo William Edward Evelin at Rickmansworth

She died 1874 Harefield, Hillingdon MDX Buried 11 April 1854 age 54 St Mary the Virgin, Harefield

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Possible marrriage
William Bowden to  Fanny Wakeman 21 April 1810 Rickmansworth

ADDED possible death 1854 aged 70 registered Watford