George Hawkins need help finding birth

[raa]

George Hawkins married Margaret Tooley 1830 in plymouth 4 children Eliza 1831 Mary Ann 1833 Charles 1835 George 1837 all born plymouth 1841 cencus in plymouth says hes porter born devon 1806 but as all ages round up or down could be couple years either way -1848 Margaret Tolley Marries a Charles Hawkins b 1810 plymouth states shes a widow i cannot find a birth or death For George hes my 3rd great grandfather until i find his birth cannot go further back on my tree any help appreciated

[Neale1961]

Probable burial 13 Feb 1842 Plymouth
George HOCKINGS (39 years)
Abode Looe Street (this matches address on 1841 census)



Witnesses at the 1830 marriage Ralph RIDER and Robert LEWIS

[wivenhoe]

Ancestry Census 1841
Southern side of Looe Street from Batter St to Vauxhall Street
HAWKINS George      35y    porter
HAWKINS Margaret    35y
HAWKINS Eliza          10y
HAWKINS Mary           5y
HAWKINS Charles       5y         all born in county....others families with this household

I am not seeing a son George with this family.

Ancestry Census 1851
32 Looe Street 
HAWKINS George      41y  Greenwich Pensioner      b. Plymouth Devon
HAWKINS Margaret   40y                                      b. Plymouth Devon
HAWKINS Charles     15y   blacksmith (app)           b. Plymouth Devon
HAWKINS Eliza         20y   dressmaker                   b. Plymouth Devon

Greenwich pensioner?.  Has George HAWKINS been in the Royal Navy?

[raa]

George died 1838

[raa]

Record details
Name   Margaret Hawkins
Age   40
Estimated Birth Year   1811
Relation   Wife
Spouse's Name   Charles Hawkins
Gender   Female
Where born   Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish   Plymouth Charles the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish   Sutton on Plym
County/Island   Devon
Country   England
Registration district   Plymouth
Sub-registration district   Charles
ED, institution, or vessel   1f
Neighbors   View others on page
Household schedule number   175
Piece   1878
Folio   179
Page number   40
Household members
Name   Age
Charles Hawkins   41
Margaret Hawkins   40
Eliza Hawkins   20
Charles Hawkins   15

[raa]

something verry wrong somewheres i have marriage cert she remarried 1848 saying shes widow

[wivenhoe]

If you have a marriage certificate, 1848, can you please list all the information on the document.

[Neale1961]

Ancestry Census 1851
32 Looe Street 
HAWKINS George      41y  Greenwich Pensioner      b. Plymouth Devon
HAWKINS Margaret   40y                                      b. Plymouth Devon
HAWKINS Charles     15y   blacksmith (app)           b. Plymouth Devon
HAWKINS Eliza         20y   dressmaker                   b. Plymouth Devon

The above is incorrect. Head of household in 1851 in CHARLES Hawkins.


Charles HAWKEN died 1858
His probate index states “Sergeant in H M Corps of Sappers and Miners who died 7 May 1858 at Koonch in Bengal, India. Probate granted to Margaret HAWKEN of the Parish of Charles Plymouth, widow of the said deceased.”

Could Charles and George have been brothers? – that idea might be worth further investigation.
To this end, I suggest you get the marriage certificate for Charles and Margaret's marriage in 1848, as this should give you Charle's father's name and occupation.

[raa]

yes wrong name on cencus the death is interesting i wonder if when he got married to Margaret Tooley it was miss spelling might answer i have nothing pop up on dna