George Hawkins need help finding birth

[raa]

think that one might be child death

[raa]

think only way im going to find George Hawkins /Hawkings/Hockings or whatever name he was born with is hope something pops up on dna on thru lines as yes nothing but thats if i have right name hes using Hawkins but that night not be his surname   i have lot of dna  matches but most people with dna matches do not have a tree thanks you everyone for input ive been trying to find out who is parents are for years now with help on here  its possible that Charles is his brother and Charles was sending money to his mother who was living at same adress as George im gettung closer thanks again everyone

[raa]

Name   George Hawkins
Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Mary Hawkins
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   16 Jan 1803
Event Place   Staverton, Devon, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Staverton, Devon, England      i wonder if this is him

[Neale1961]

Name   George Hawkins
Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Mary Hawkins
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   16 Jan 1803
Event Place   Staverton, Devon, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Staverton, Devon, England      i wonder if this is him

This is the child of a single woman named Mary Hawkins.
Staverton is a fair way from Plymouth.

[jonw65]

I think we have put more of the jigsaw puzzle together, but some of the pieces seem to be missing
What happened to Mary? She must have been alive in 1838. And her third husband. I can only see a Ralph Ryder who died in Plympton workhouse in 1844

I wouldn't take it as certain that Charles was born in 1811, the ages they give in those kind of records are often a year or so out. So it could have been 1810.
Are the facts he gave about his father on his marriage correct? Sometimes they are not. And bear in mind that Mary's second husband was a carpenter.

[Neale1961]

There is a burial for a Mary RIDER in Charles the Martyr, Plymouth on 14 July 1839
Her age is 49 (may not be quite accurate)
Address is Lower St (is this a mis-hearing of Looe Street?) 

[raa]

i agree bits puzzle still missing great effort everyone

[athel_cb]

"was it illegal them days to marry someone then marry his brother yes great find with marriages just need now find original marriage to William Hawkings /Hockings"

Whether illegal or not, it certainly happened, at least if you switch the sexes around. My great-great-great-grandfather Ambrose Bowden married Joan Booth, who bore him one son. When she died he married her sister Elizabeth, who had her first child six days after the marriage. 

[raa]

yes need find that marriage we know hes Charles Father but is he Georges all the children born were Georges hes my main interest hopefully there brothers as William is only lead i have